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Old 06-19-2008, 08:54 PM   #125 (permalink)
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put it this way, if joe stands in front of jones, then jones will pretty much push him back. he was making tito look like a bitch, but tito was game. i am pretty much sure that if jones doesn't chase, then he won;t take the belt away. you gotta impress to take things away from the champ.

i hope i don't sound like a nuthugger, but i feel joe can box with roy. he likes to jab and then go in and out. sometimes he ups it and throws a combo. if he can do it every round, then he will look good and win the rounds. roy has the speed from a standstill, but joe has the speed in terms of swarming so i do get what you mean abotu him winning that way, yet i feel joe will respect joens power and not risk getting caught. swarming works for b and c level fighters, but not a jones. jones is good enough to connect.

in recent times, i have noticed that joe calz is more effective when he jabs and boxes, and counters people who come at him. he can't go chasing people who are a level,. i just feel it will play into their hands than his. this can be said to roy aswell. i mean roy looked ok vs tito, he did let tito come forward, but tito is abit rusty and was always in front. joe has head, body and his feet moving all the time. that's why i feel the fight will be close. it's all about tactics and who can do what.

i don;t see it as a mismatch at all. how can you when it's roy jones. plus he was injured vs tito and still won easily.
I just wish that the compubox is more careful on what punches land...slapping needs to be its own separate category. For example against B-Hop, Cal landed more slaps...not the more effective punches (which I thought boxing was all about). I've never really seen someone slap somebody else in the ring for points...I just haven't. And its almost disgraceful.

Just because you don't chase him doesn't mean you aren't the aggressor. If Cal is coming at RJ and RJ is countering the snot out of Cal...the judges have to give it to Roy.

Haha nah you don't sound like a nuthugger but Cal can't box with RJ in the middle of the ring...plain and simple. NO ONE has been able to box with RJ in the middle of the ring...not B-Hop...not James Toney...NO ONE. Calzaghe isn't the exception. Roy simply just gets off so much quicker than Cal and everyone else. Plus the punches coming from odd angles are going to give Cal problems also. The way Cal can neutralize Roy's speed is to crowd him and pressure him and hold him...that's the only way. The tapes he needs to watch is how B-Hop fought RJ back in the day because he almost fought a perfect fight but RJ had soo much more skill over B-Hop back in the day and that's why he outpointed him. Crowd RJ or pressure him in someway or Cal will face the consequences. I agreed with most of what you said by the way.
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