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Okay I finally tried them out again last night.
Here's the deal with the Grant training gloves:
The leather feels harder than the super bag glove but they have a very flexible pocket, so it's not hard to make a fist and you can open them all the way very easily.
The pocket around the palm & wrist is very snug (especially when you lace it up real tight).
The pocket around the big knuckles is very wide- about an inch and a half wider at the knuckles than the super bag glove.
The pocket has a lot of lateral space, but not as spacious as I thought in front of the knuckles- though it really depends on how you make your fist.
The fill is only an inch to an inch and a half thick; which may even be thinner than the super bag gloves.
If I had to guess - they added glove ounce weight by making it wider instead of thicker; which is kinda shady coz in practice a 16 will be the same as a 14 or a 12.
Punching the soft part of an everlast heavybag (at the top half) it wasn't bad on the knuckles.
When I punched the sandy part of the bag at the bottom (aka the rock) you could really feel it.
With hard bags I'd venture you can risk bruising without added protection; unless the padding softens up some more with regular use.
The liner on both gloves is in fact a soft canvas.
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