I was talking to someone from G&S who said their pro gloves are form fitting. I assume it means the padding shapes to your hand over time versus the formed padding where your hand forms around the shape of the padding. Can anyone comment? And why are the G&S gloves so cheap? I have heard they are a high quality glove. What brand name would they compare with?
Also, is Combat Sports a Ringside offshoot company? If so can I assume their Cleto Reyes sparring gloves are the same as the Ringside ones even though they are priced less? And are the Combat Sport IMF Techs the same as the Ringside ones? They are on sale for $55.
Finally, has anyone heard of BadBoy or Triumph United brands of gloves and if so what are your feelings about them? Also the Winning knockoffs, Fighting Sports and Hayabusa?
I've been waiting forever for the only supplier of Cleto Reyes in Canada to get their shipment and I'm at the point where I'm ready to cave in and pay the U.S. exchange and just get some darn gloves.
I have a pair of G&S gloves and they fit me well. The pocket on the glove realy does hug your hand. Maybe that's what they mean by form fitting?
Unlike my Casanova gloves that have humoungous pockets. I go through too much when I have to use those gloves with wrapping my hands a certain way and adding sponge so the pocket gets filled.
If you have bigger hands and want some Mexican gloves then shoot me PM. I promise they don't smell like mildew and will definitely get you noticed by the old timers.
I'm not sure why G&S gloves are so cheap though. I do know that they are an actual store you can walk into and the neighborhood they are in is one of the more reasonable neighborhoods in NYC when it comes to prices if that helps any... Maybe they're still using 1980 prices? They've been there a while.
G&S is having their gloves made overseas, they also don't have huge overhead, that's why they have reasonable prices.
Yes, CSI is a sub-brand of Ringside. The gloves should be the same between those 2. But I've always suspected the stuff sold through either site to be different from the original product. ie. Mexican market Reyes are different, as are Lonsdale gloves available in the UK.
I've been eying the Grant gloves on CSI, but I keep hearing stories that Grant gloves have changed & the quality has dropped since they hooked up with Ringside/CSI.
Badboy looks overpriced
I hear good things about Triumph, but they look so similar to Title to me (at least the leather) that I doubt I'd ever try them out.
Fighting brand gloves are the high end of Title's product line and my buddy who owns a pair loves them.
Hayabusa I think is a Canadian company. Gear is supposed to be quality. The gloves ship a little hard for sparring.
Thanks again Porkchop. I wonder what would be the difference between Mexican Cleto Reyes and the ones advertised on Combatsports?
I actually talked to a guy at Title and he said that his preference would be Triumph, Fightingsports, then Hayabusa in terms of quality. Then I read on a different forum where a different guy from Title who posts said Fightingsports, Triumph, then Hayabusa. Who knows huh? I think all three look to be kind of streamlined and not big puffy pillows. The guy at carnaldamage(yes, that's a legit site) said he would ship the Triumph's to me here in Canada for free so I'd just pay the price of the gloves.
So Fightingsports are at the highend of Title's line? I didn't even know they were made by Title and thought they were another brand. Interesting. I don't think Hayabusa are a Canadian brand since I live here and have been having trouble finding any quality gloves for my son other than Top Tens and Twins, which I don't want. As I mentioned I've been waiting forever for some Cleto Reyes from a supplier and I'm ready to move on and bite the bullet and pay the currency exchange and duties.
Don Flamenco, can you describe more detail for me about the G&S Gloves? Are they big and round in profile, streamlind, or somewhere in between? How is the wrist support? My son's coach said to get laceups. Is it a more rounded striking surface or flatter?
His coach said it really doesn't matter about the hardness of the gloves for sparring as long as they're 16oz. Alot of guys use Reyes, Grants, Ringsides, and Titles.
Interesting. I don't think Hayabusa are a Canadian brand since I live here and have been having trouble finding any quality gloves for my son other than Top Tens and Twins, which I don't want.
I didn't realize that. Thanks for the info. I'm still interested in hearing from Don Flamenco's more detailed opinion of G&S gloves plus how anyone else would rank Triumph, Fightingsports, and Hayabusa in order and what mainstream gloves they compare with and what kind of profile these gloves have as far as bulk, flatness of striking surface,type of padding,etc.
They are more top heavy than a Mexican glove. A handful of guys at my gym spar with G&S gloves. I think it's pretty much the local brand of choice in the NYC area. Doesn't hurt that it's not too expensive either. Alot of people also use Ringside, and Grants. Surprisingly, we got alot of people also using Zepol gear and have Zepol speedbags and heavy bags as well.
Speaking of Grants, I seen some sick ass red white and green pro grant gloves in the gym today. The leather felt awesome, but I wasn't able to try them on.
Speaking of Grants, I seen some sick ass red white and green pro grant gloves in the gym today. The leather felt awesome, but I wasn't able to try them on.
what i heard is that the liners are now paper thin and rip real easy.
I think I'm going to go with the G&S gloves. After reading Don Flamenco's comments I decided to phone G&S and ask a few more questions. The guy there said their pro gloves use materials that were as highend as any $120-$150 gloves. Their overhead is very low since they've been in the same store forever, they don't really spend on advertising and promoting. I asked about style of gloves and he said these days their gloves have that precurved shape that most modern gloves have, to a certain extent. He said they build them on the snug side to stretch and form around the users hand so they become a perfect fit regardless of whether you have a large hand(that stretched more), or a small hand(which won't mold as much). That's what he said anyways and that's why they call them form fitting, kind of a custom fit. I asked him if they were bulky or streamlined and he said they were a little more sleek than alot of gloves. I also asked him about the balance of the gloves since Don Flamenco mentioned they were a bit more "top heavy" than Reyes and he said they are an all around balanced glove, not forward weighted. I guess after wearing Reyes any glove would seem to have more padding upfront. He also said they only carry them in black because they use high grade leather and like to keep things simple(and probably cheaper priced).
Now here's some number crunching I did. The G&S were $65, plus he said if I paid $25 they would ship it U.S. postal service which would be less expensive. I wanted to avoid UPS and such because they charge brokerage fees for duties and customs. This way the gloves get mailed to my house, although there isn't the same protection with tracking and the sort. The total will be $90, or $105 Canadian.
My second choice, the FightingSport gloves from Title, were going to be $100 plus Title would only ship them UPS or FedEx, I forget which, plus any duties and customs for a minimum of $145, or $167 Canadian. Quite a difference. And of course Reyes would have been alot more than that, probably close to double the cost of the G&S gloves.
Maybe I'm cheap but all in all I think the G&S gloves will have what my son's looking for and are a great price if they indeed are comparable quality wise to the much more expensive gloves. And if not I haven't paid a huge sum.
what i heard is that the liners are now paper thin and rip real easy.
That sucks. Everyone seems to be cutting back on quality nowadays.
I am thinking of getting some 12 ouncers to work on my technique. When I get too excited, I tend to loop my left hook instead of throwing it from my chin.
Your pro bag glove grants, those are 12 ouncers right?
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My second choice, the FightingSport gloves from Title, were going to be $100 plus Title would only ship them UPS or FedEx, I forget which, plus any duties and customs for a minimum of $145, or $167 Canadian. Quite a difference. And of course Reyes would have been alot more than that, probably close to double the cost of the G&S gloves.
Maybe I'm cheap but all in all I think the G&S gloves will have what my son's looking for and are a great price if they indeed are comparable quality wise to the much more expensive gloves. And if not I haven't paid a huge sum.
Let us know how your son likes them!
Last edited by Don Flamenco : 07-03-2009 at 07:53 PM.
What exactly does form fitting mean?
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