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Old 05-07-2010, 05:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It was WBC rules



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Nady calling that a slip was a fukk up, the punch clearly landed and JMM clearly touched down.
Yes, that settles that. It was clear KD, but Barrera should know better than to let go of his frustration.

On the other hand, his temper is one of the reasons i like him.

As for Pac prime, i think its now.
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Old 05-07-2010, 05:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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He's just too big and fast for him. We've seen how bad Marquez is at welterweight. So slow and weak.
pac's in his prime....now. he's actually a bit slower than he was in his featherweight days. the power factor ratio remains the same as their lightweight fight methinks. stronger atletic fighter.....smarter less athletic fighter.....same results.

another close competitive fight
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:40 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I think today's Pacquaio stands a far greater chance against prime Morales than the Manny of 5 years ago.
if this is manny's prime than of course he beats any of them...hes a f*ckin' welter/jr. welter now...

i think the better question for this thread should have been:

how a 126/130 lb. manny pacquiao does against a prime barrera/morales/marquez???

i think there is no doubt that manny was "green" when he lost to singsurat but i dont think manny can be considered "green" when he fought any of the 3 mexican greats while they were past their primes...

manny was already a world class fighter and multiple world champion...

all he has done is worked on and improved certain aspects of his game and filled out physically...

fighters adjust there styles with age...you can use m.a. barrera as an example of that...barrera wasnt "green" when he lost back to back fights against junior jones...he was in his prime but had yet to hit his peak where he had fully maximized his boxing ability and was still a come forward banger at the time...

its my opinion manny hit his prime somewhere around the time of the ledwaba fight when he first started working with the roach...

to me other than filling out and becoming sttronger,stylistically hes not really that much different from the fighter that loss the 1st fight to morales...

what i think the difference now at 140/147 between manny and his opponents is basically speed...he didnt look as awesome against those little guys because there wasnt as big a difference with quickness and handspeed as there is against these bigger fighters...
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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He's just too big and fast for him. We've seen how bad Marquez is at welterweight. So slow and weak.
bull5hit. he was always supposed to be too fast and strong for him and we saw what happened. he got a DISPUTED decision...

you're probably going to come back and say that pac is a better fighter now. i'll will always counter that he hasn't fought a "boxer" since he fought marquez. team arum knows who pac shines against and matches him up with fighters who fit his "bill". mainly, the non-boxing type

if they were confident that pac beats mayweather they wouldn't of made all the fuss over these tests. they would've jumped at the chance just like they did when oscar agreed to fight at 147. it was too good to pass up
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:54 PM   #35 (permalink)
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bull5hit. he was always supposed to be too fast and strong for him and we saw what happened. he got a DISPUTED decision...

you're probably going to come back and say that pac is a better fighter now. i'll will always counter that he hasn't fought a "boxer" since he fought marquez. team arum knows who pac shines against and matches him up with fighters who fit his "bill". mainly, the non-boxing type

if they were confident that pac beats mayweather they wouldn't of made all the fuss over these tests. they would've jumped at the chance just like they did when oscar agreed to fight at 147. it was too good to pass up
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:18 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Prime vs Prime? Marquez would whoop Pacquiao and he already did that, twice.

Barrera would have done the same in his prime and Morales definitely would have done so. After all, Morales already schooled Pacquiao in their first fight and he was already super-past prime at that point and could hardly make the weight. He began to school him again in the 2nd fight until his stamina and legs gave out from having trouble with making the weight. I mean cmon, this is the Morales that got destroyed by Rahim in 6 rounds and Pacquiao still fought him at a weight he could no longer make instead of fighting Rahim.

Marquez > Barrera Prime vs Prime
Marquez > Morales Prime vs Prime
Barrera > Morales Prime vs Prime
Morales > Pacquiao Prime vs Prime
Barrera > Pacquiao Prime vs Prime
Marquez > Pacquiao Prime or not lmfao.

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Unbelieveable ediot above.
Blind by your hate jealousy of Pacman, you still think Marquez won.
Pacman that fought Morales was still learning. After he lost to Morales Freddy made him the fighter he is today.

Prime Pacman KTFO of all 3 of them inside 3 rounds.
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bull5hit. he was always supposed to be too fast and strong for him and we saw what happened. he got a DISPUTED decision...

you're probably going to come back and say that pac is a better fighter now. i'll will always counter that he hasn't fought a "boxer" since he fought marquez. team arum knows who pac shines against and matches him up with fighters who fit his "bill". mainly, the non-boxing type

if they were confident that pac beats mayweather they wouldn't of made all the fuss over these tests. they would've jumped at the chance just like they did when oscar agreed to fight at 147. it was too good to pass up
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