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Old 10-12-2010, 07:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boxers who have killed in the ring?

What are usually their reaction to such an unfortunate event? how does it affect them in the ring, in their training and even their personal lives? how do they cope with it? are they able to?

Anyone know any stories of boxers who have lived through it or somethin similar atleast, kinda like Nigel Benn?

If Manny for example ended up killing Margarito (or any other fighter for that matter) in a boxing match how would that make you feel towards him as a fighter or a person?


How do families cope with it? what actions do they or can they take against the fighters?
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ray Mancini
SRR
Jesus Chavez
Emile Griffith
Max Baer

Should be something surrounding when they killed a man in the ring. They usually don't have a reaction because they usually don't know if they killed their opponent until afterward, but it's definitely not an easy pill to swallow.
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They're devastated and in some cases are never the same again.
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They're devastated and in some cases are never the same again.
Quite true, for any normal human being the accidental taking of a human life can be overwhelmingly traumatic, and even though most boxers know it's a very realistic possibility it most certainly can still be very phychologically damaging, in the case of Emile Griffith it was said that revenge for was part of the cause for the tragic ending of his bout against Cuban boxer Benny Kid Paret
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it's not very surprising that boxers can die in the ring, it's something that happens rarely but always a possibility.

did tyson kill anyone? i would expect death in the ring with him. he fought to kill though so i don't know how much it would phase him
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What are usually their reaction to such an unfortunate event? how does it affect them in the ring, in their training and even their personal lives? how do they cope with it? are they able to?

Anyone know any stories of boxers who have lived through it or somethin similar atleast, kinda like Nigel Benn?

If Manny for example ended up killing Margarito (or any other fighter for that matter) in a boxing match how would that make you feel towards him as a fighter or a person?

How do families cope with it? what actions do they or can they take against the fighters?
Ezzard Charles was forever effected by the death of Baroudi and even spoke of it during his last days. Although he continued to ko opponents he was never the same.

Robinson also with the death of Doyle.

It's easy to see how Johnsons death effected Chavez.

I think Fitzy killed 3 guys, one in sparring. Not sure if there anything written on his feelings. One would think there were adverse effects but things were so different then.

I know the ref of Mancini/Kim committed suicide along with Kims mother.

Young died after the Willard fight but have not read anything on the effects and Baer killed 2 guys I think.
But again different times.

As far as my thoughts on the fighter in such tragic circumstances they do not really change.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Curious to know. As anyone ever been killed from a body shot??
The magician Harry Houdini was killed by a series of body blows :

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Harry Houdini died of peritonitis, secondary to a ruptured appendix. Eyewitnesses to an incident in Montreal gave rise to speculation that Houdini's death was caused by a McGill University student, J. Gordon Whitehead, who delivered multiple blows to Houdini's abdomen to test Houdini's claim that he was able to take any blow to the body above the waist without injury.
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Ezzard Charles was forever effected by the death of Baroudi and even spoke of it during his last days. Although he continued to ko opponents he was never the same.

Robinson also with the death of Doyle.

It's easy to see how Johnsons death effected Chavez.

I think Fitzy killed 3 guys, one in sparring. Not sure if there anything written on his feelings. One would think there were adverse effects but things were so different then.

I know the ref of Mancini/Kim committed suicide along with Kims mother.

Young died after the Willard fight but have not read anything on the effects and Baer killed 2 guys I think.
But again different times.

As far as my thoughts on the fighter in such tragic circumstances they do not really change.
Mancini had a hard time coping with Kim's death he even thought about retiring at that time.
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Nobody could withstand punishment with him long enough to be killed. Usually people are killed with accumulative punishment. In his case, he lands a solid shot, your out, your fine. Most deaths in the ring are due to excessive swelling or bleeding of the brain. I believe in Baer's case he snapped the brain stem?

Curious to know. As anyone ever been killed from a body shot??
Houdini died from a body shot. From a boxer even. Although not in the ring.
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:57 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Ezzard Charles killed Sam Baroudi in the ring and as GhettoWizard stated, it affected him a lot. So much so that he was never the same again. That is testament to how good he really was that a Charles, without all of the venom that made him so devastating, was able to capture and defend the Heavyweight Championship of the World. Fantastic fighter.
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it's not very surprising that boxers can die in the ring, it's something that happens rarely but always a possibility.

did tyson kill anyone? i would expect death in the ring with him. he fought to kill though so i don't know how much it would phase him
Heavyweight deaths are very rare. The main cause of boxing deaths take place when a fighter has dehydrated themselves to make weight. As it takes a while to properly replace fluid around the brain.
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