[godofwar]

I just was on youtube and I seen an ignorant recent comment posted today calling Froch a bum and claiming Calzaghe would have whooped him. While, I do agree Calzaghe may have beaten Froch in a fantasy fight(since we will never know since the fight never happened) I can't believe someone would have the nerve to call Froch a bum.

In that same interview when Calzaghe/Froch are talking Froch even admits he'd have to catch/hurt Calzaghe to probably beat him.

Froch isn't in denial claiming he is the greatest fighter in the world. But Froch is a good ass fighter/champion and deserves respect for being that ring.

[Unseen]

Only when I see how hard people, normal people train in Martial arts and Boxing, and then I look at how these people want to be pro's or champs and think, all around the world people Box and to be one of 4 title holders is still a damn big achievement.

[Joabbuac]

It doesnt bother me much....People like that are not worth putting much thought into.

[Colzo]

yea it anoys me too when boxers dedicate there lives to a sport in this case being boxing they win a world title in people call them bums when the guy has achieved his life long ambition I bet the guys thats doing the name calling hasnt achieved theres!

[carob]

Originally Posted by Colzo

I bet the guys thats doing the name calling hasnt achieved theres!

"Riding on their armchairs
They dream of wealth and fame
Fear is their companion
Nintendo is their game
Never done jack and two thumbs down
And sidekick don't say dikk
They laugh at others failures
Though they have not done zhit...

The "never was" talking about "still trying."
I got it.
"Forever Bitter" gossiping about "never say die."
May I inquire what you've been doing mister?
What are you afraid of?
Failure?"

Something like that. Lines from "Has Been," title track on a CD by William Shatner.

A "bum" might be a fighter who takes a dive. Or someone who goes into a fight just for the pay day and thinks it won't be a dive if he stays on his feet for the 10 rounds. Even then, you can't be sure what caused the "cowardice," or how badly his skills had eroded and how desperately he needed the money.


The old-time fighter Al Davis wasn't called BUM, but...BUMMY!

Al "Bummy Davis" was originally called "Boomy," but before his first fight, his manager changed it. I guess this was the era of the Brooklyn Dodgers ("Dem Bums") and being "bummy" had several meanings. Said the manager: "You want to make money fighting, don't you? People like to come to fights to see guys they think are tough." So he fought as "Bummy." Although he might also have been pretty tough if he fought as a boy named Sue.

[UppercutDamage]

Naw, I think it's all fair game.

Just because a fighter trains hard does not eliminate the fact that he may be a natural bum.
I mean, some lawyers go to school, pass the bar and go into [ractice, but can still be incompetent, or less then average. To me it's a sign that people aren't always cut out to do anything they want.
As Joe Louis showed, there are many more bums than their are elites. Training hard is not what differentiates the bums from the elites. Bums can train twice as hard as elites like Mayweather and still be bums.
Still, Louis wanted to give even the bums a shot and started the "Bum-Of-The-Month" club.
They got their once-A-lifetime shot, and proved they were far below elite levels.

remember the TV show; Joes versus Pros? It could have easily been called, Bums against Pros.

Were fans as SENSITIVE to the use of the bum label then too?