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Old 07-29-2012, 04:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Gotta agree with you, my leading candidate so far
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mmm well the way the rankings work I'd say Andre Ward. SMW is a great division but his already beaten Froch and Kessler (controversial). Ward needs a Kessler rematch but I know the people making the rankings don't give a **** about that. They will also all get boners over his win against Dawson, although Dawson is losing tonnes of weight to come to 168. After that, all Ward has to do is beat another "name" at either 168 or 175 (I think he'll be moving up) and he'll be top 3 already.
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JCC Jr would lose to Froch, Bute, Dirrell, and Ward...he has the capabilities to beat Martinez but I think he Martinez will scrape this one out.

As for my answer, Andre Ward
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If Dawson beats Ward, are you guys still so sure that Ward will be the P4P king?
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Ward all day.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You all are underestimating Jr. The only way to beat Jr is to have superb power , superb speed, and super defense/great chin. There's no one out there with all these abilities right now. He's getting better with every fight and has his dad's granite chin.
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You all are underestimating Jr. The only way to beat Jr is to have superb power , superb speed, and super defense/great chin. There's no one out there with all these abilities right now. He's getting better with every fight and has his dad's granite chin.
So you think he'll beat Martinez, even though Martinez has superb power, superb speed, and superb angles? Martinez's chin is solid too, not great, but he can take a good shot.

If Martinez beats Chavez, would you still favor Chavez to go on to rise to the top of the P4P list?
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You all are underestimating Jr. The only way to beat Jr is to have superb power , superb speed, and super defense/great chin. There's no one out there with all these abilities right now. He's getting better with every fight and has his dad's granite chin.
Someoen with a solid chin, stamina and boxing skills would beat him... Carl Froch would do it, Ward would
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:04 AM   #17 (permalink)
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So you think he'll beat Martinez, even though Martinez has superb power, superb speed, and superb angles? Martinez's chin is solid too, not great, but he can take a good shot.

If Martinez beats Chavez, would you still favor Chavez to go on to rise to the top of the P4P list?
Maravilla has good power, good to excellent speed, mediocre to good chin, and mediocre defense. I think Jr will rough up Martinez, kill his body and get him late. Jr will eat a lot of shots coming in, but he'll keep coming. What Jr has more than any other middleweight right now is MACHISMO. That right there will make or break him as a fighter.
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:02 AM   #18 (permalink)
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You all are underestimating Jr. The only way to beat Jr is to have superb power , superb speed, and super defense/great chin. There's no one out there with all these abilities right now. He's getting better with every fight and has his dad's granite chin.
Martinez is very mobile...if he boxes and moves like he did to Pavlik, this will be a long night for JCC. JCC is a straight up and down fighter with very little head movement...so there's some things Martinez can capitalize on as well.

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If Dawson beats Ward, are you guys still so sure that Ward will be the P4P king?
Dawson will lose to Ward...but if he did beat Ward, it will only be a set back to being the King.

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Someoen with a solid chin, stamina and boxing skills would beat him... Carl Froch would do it, Ward would
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:33 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Canelo is begging for a Mayweather fight, as of now, he is going to fight Josesito in Sept, plans to fight Cotto in december and prays to fight Mayweather in May.

If his plans comes real, and wins the 3 fights... what would be his ranking since he isnot in the list yet?
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Canelo is begging for a Mayweather fight, as of now, he is going to fight Josesito in Sept, plans to fight Cotto in december and prays to fight Mayweather in May.

If his plans comes real, and wins the 3 fights... what would be his ranking since he isnot in the list yet?
He should beat Josesito and that shouldn't really impact any type of ranking. I doubt the Cotto fight comes through but if it does and in this fantasy world he wins, I'd have him ranked pretty highly, at 10 on the p4p list. If he beats Mayweather, with no controversy, he gets into the top 3.
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