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08-01-2012, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fsenties4
According with HBO, he was 181 against Rubio.
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And I'm here to tell you...you can't cut that kind of weight without a diuretic. Him doing that is stretching the integrity of the game...but whatever. It'll catch up to him.
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08-01-2012, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Intellectual 1
And I'm here to tell you...you can't cut that kind of weight without a diuretic. Him doing that is stretching the integrity of the game...but whatever. It'll catch up to him.
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He's already been caught with diuretics. He's essentially fighting 2 weight classes below his natural weight class.
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08-02-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bill1234
He's already been caught with diuretics. He's essentially fighting 2 weight classes below his natural weight class.
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True. But he is not the only one who does/did this, Victor Ortiz fights at welterweight but he comes into the ring as a middleweight, also Donaire use to do that, specially when he was fighting at superfly and bantamweight, just to say some names...
...the thing is that it obviously is more notorius in Chavez because his weight division is higher, and because Chavez haters are looking for a reason to diminish his improvement (and I'm not saying he is p4p material, I just say he has improved).
Last edited by fsenties4 : 08-02-2012 at 03:14 PM.
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08-02-2012, 12:51 PM
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I want to see him fight people his own size, if he's really improved, fighting lightheavies shouldn't be a problem for him.
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08-02-2012, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Liebe
I want to see him fight people his own size, if he's really improved, fighting lightheavies shouldn't be a problem for him.
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I think he is not a lightheavy yet, I don´t know how much do lightheavys rehydrate on fightnight, but I'm sure is not only 6 pounds.
Fighting at SMW would be enough for Chavez to eliminate all his weight issues.
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08-02-2012, 02:47 PM
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Ward (would box the breaks off of JCC jr), Froch, Dirrell, Kessler, Dawson, Pascal, Bute, and any other top tiered fighter at LHW would work Chavez Jr...
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08-02-2012, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fsenties4
True. But he is not the only one who does/did this, Victor Ortiz fights at welterweight but he comes into the ring as a middleweight, also Donaire use to do that, specially when he was fighting at superfly and bantamweight, just to say some names...
,,,the thing is that it is obviously more notorius in Chavez because his weight division is higher, and because Chavez haters are looking for a reason to diminish his improvement (and I'm not saying he is p4p material, I just say he has improved).
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It's become a common thing due to the 24 hour weigh ins.
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08-03-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bill1234
It's become a common thing due to the 24 hour weigh ins.
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sometimes 30 hours
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08-06-2012, 11:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fsenties4
According with HBO, he was 181 against Rubio.
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Rubio  That was a total mismatch without the extra hydration. He broke the old man down.  When is this kid gonna stop beating up c level fighters?Cripples and convicts. I wanna see him fight at 168 against Ward,AA,Froch,Bute anybody. But he keeps fighting these middleweight midgets.Getting him to fight Sergio Martinez is like pulling teeth. Step big man fock 184 on fight night? Andre Ward and Froch dont even weigh that much and Ward is big rangey super middle.
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Last edited by BigDave330 : 08-06-2012 at 11:56 PM.
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08-06-2012, 11:59 PM
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Fighting Little Guys
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Originally Posted by Liebe
I want to see him fight people his own size, if he's really improved, fighting lightheavies shouldn't be a problem for him.
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The Zbik fight was a total mismatch,setup.He outguuned the hell out of Zbick but the little dude hung in there.He was eating some bombs and they didnt even fase him much.Zbik has a great chin. He showed it against Chavez Jr.
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