[Dr. Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by Unseen

Overeem had one doctor backing him up actually. Stop lying.

What dates were the tests by this doctor and what was the date of the positive test when it was sampled? I have not read their findings on the matter if I am honest, and would like to see it. The statement from IBF is what it is, but I have seen plenty of dodgy things done by sanctioning bodies in my time.

Even under 4 weeks is enough to cycle off something.

Ok...1 doc vs 4, still not a winning situation

March 19th--> + on April 12th; April 13th--> - May 2nd

NSAC execs says Lamont Peterson admitted taking testosterone pellets - ESPN

I feel IBF did the right thing in placing an investigation and making their decision with a complete report on the issue at hand.

[Unseen]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sweet Science

Ok...1 doc vs 4, still not a winning situation

March 19th--> + on April 12th; April 13th--> - May 2nd

NSAC execs says Lamont Peterson admitted taking testosterone pellets - ESPN

I feel IBF did the right thing in placing an investigation and making their decision with a complete report on the issue at hand.

1 or 4, it shows that doctors can be fooled or are just simply bias for whatever reason.

That article is about more or less the original VADA testing. I am talking about his recent testing by doctors, which I assume is also what the IBF based it on as well.

[Intellectual 1]

Originally Posted by Unseen

1 or 4, it shows that doctors can be fooled or are just simply bias for whatever reason.

That article is about more or less the original VADA testing. I am talking about his recent testing by doctors, which I assume is also what the IBF based it on as well.

Amount of knowledge on medicine

Doctor's > You


So by in part...your opinion doesn't really matter anymore.

[Unseen]

Originally Posted by Intellectual 1

Amount of knowledge on medicine

Doctor's > You


So by in part...your opinion doesn't really matter anymore.

Oh that's like Hopkin's knows if he has a thyroid issue or not, but nooo, a reporter knows more than him right? You are the last person to come at me son.

Dr Sweet at least shows intelligence and is worthy of my time, I only reply to you like a Lion plays with his meat. ou are my son.

[Dr. Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by Unseen

1 or 4, it shows that doctors can be fooled or are just simply bias for whatever reason.

That article is about more or less the original VADA testing. I am talking about his recent testing by doctors, which I assume is also what the IBF based it on as well.

This man has studied medicine for more than half of a decade to get to the practice that he's in today...so I doubt in such a high stakes case he would be fooled by a common disorder. This isn't some rare form of disease that Lamont has, it's very common in MMA and boxers so I'm sure he has seen this case many times before. Second, yes 1 may be fooled but all 4? And an independent specialist in endocrinology at that? I really doubt it. And why are they biased? The investigation even involved an independent physician who doesn't even know Lamont, and he said the exact same thing. There's no bias or foolery here...this is TRUTH.

Well he was negative in April, so I'm sure he was negative any time after that.

[Unseen]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sweet Science

This man has studied medicine for more than half of a decade to get to the practice that he's in today...so I doubt in such a high stakes case he would be fooled by a common disorder. This isn't some rare form of disease that Lamont has, it's very common in MMA and boxers so I'm sure he has seen this case many times before. Second, yes 1 may be fooled but all 4? And an independent specialist in endocrinology at that? I really doubt it. And why are they biased? The investigation even involved an independent physician who doesn't even know Lamont, and he said the exact same thing. There's no bias or foolery here...this is TRUTH.

Well he was negative in April, so I'm sure he was negative any time after that.

He works in a private clinic that works on making profit. He may have experience but he's not a some specialist who works with athletes because he works with loads of old men. I mean Desert Oasis Clinic? Really?

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I still question why he stated that he only gave bio identical testosterone and why Peterson was found to have synthetic. Well it seems they have put quite a lot of it under construction, more importantly they put the bio identical bit there. Hmmmm.

I also would like to see what results and what tests the IBF looked at. If it is from the tests where some doctors stated that there are no signs of long term drug use in his testies etc... then I agree with that already because he started in November. However I am not sure exactly what they looked at.

[Dr. Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by Unseen

He works in a private clinic that works on making profit. He may have experience but he's not a some specialist who works with athletes because he works with loads of old men. I mean Desert Oasis Clinic? Really?

Alternative Medicine | Homeopathy | Las Vegas

I still question why he stated that he only gave bio identical testosterone and why Peterson was found to have synthetic. Well it seems they have put quite a lot of it under construction, more importantly they put the bio identical bit there. Hmmmm.

I also would like to see what results and what tests the IBF looked at. If it is from the tests where some doctors stated that there are no signs of long term drug use in his testies etc... then I agree with that already because he started in November. However I am not sure exactly what they looked at.

No you don't understand, the man is a specialist in endocrinology...he knows what he's talking about. And an independent endocrinoligst said the exact same thing as Peterson's doc so I don't question the doc's opinion at all.

IBF looked at an in-depth investigation headed by a team of doctors. They said it showed Lamont's medical records from last year to present day. Including all drug tests...

[Unseen]

Link that Dan Rafael said it was a random test just to back my post on the box. This is my understanding anyway, but can't trace what VADA have said if it was or not.

Lamont Peterson-Amir Khan canceled after failed urine test - ESPN

He may be an expert, but so was Victor Conte and others. Mistakes happen.

[Dr. Sweet Science]

"One thing that needs to be cleared up: It was said that he failed a random drug test, which he never did," Hunter said. "All the tests were supposed to be random. The only test they all knew about was the one in Los Angeles, and that's the one he tested positive for. The two tests he passed were random."

Lamont Peterson, still IBF champ, excited for Zab Judah bout ? USATODAY.com

[Intellectual 1]

Originally Posted by Unseen

Oh that's like Hopkin's knows if he has a thyroid issue or not, but nooo, a reporter knows more than him right? You are the last person to come at me son.

Dr Sweet at least shows intelligence and is worthy of my time, I only reply to you like a Lion plays with his meat. ou are my son.

Because Hopkins is giving a medical opinion about someone else ? Kid these are two different subjects. You comparing the two just tells me you're grasping for straws.

Now go back to playing with your meat