[Darkrain]

I watched on Netflix. It was a good documentary. Does anyone feel lost respect for Sylvester Stallone for not sharing his money to Chuck Wepner?. I can't believe that Sylvester borrowed "from Wepner's life" to used his movies. And, I was upset at Ali wanted Chuck to do before the fight when they met at the hotel.

How do you feel about this? what's your opinion on this documentary.?

[Colzo]

Originally Posted by Darkrain

I watched on Netflix. It was a good documentary. Does anyone feel lost respect for Sylvester Stallone for not sharing his money to Chuck Wepner?. I can't believe that Sylvester borrowed "from Wepner's life" to used his movies. And, I was upset at Ali wanted Chuck to do before the fight when they met at the hotel.

How do you feel about this? what's your opinion on this documentary.?

I never seen the doc but Ino that story that Rocky 1 was based on Ali v Wepner Stallone also stole things from other boxers in the move like using the hung meat as a punching bag that was done in real life by Joe Fraizer.
these men were the inspiration for this film the film wasnt about them so...

[Darkrain]

I can't believe Stallone tried to deny that Chuck wasn't the inspiration for Rocky and it was too many similarities of Chuck's life that was in Rocky movies.

And, I can't believe that Ali wanted him to call him a n!ggier. And then he lied about it on that show they was on and said he did call him a n word. Ali was a trip, he talked too f*cking much.

SMH...what the f*ck is wrong with people that they having a Rocky statue and Stallone is in Hall of Fame...that don't make no damn sense cause he's not even a real boxer.

[carob]

Originally Posted by Darkrain

I can't believe Stallone tried to deny that Chuck wasn't the inspiration for Rocky and it was too many similarities of Chuck's life that was in Rocky movies.

Being the "inspiration" for a movie doesn't mean you're entitled to money. "Rocky" wasn't the Chuck Wepner story.

"Rocky" was a character invented by Sylvester Stallone. It's Stallone's brand of dumb wit, it's Stallone's philosophies, it's Stallone's set of supporting characters including the wife and the feisty trainer. None of that has anything remotely to do with Wepner.

It was pretty obvious to everyone that the idea of a loudmouth black champion picking a no-talent pug for an opponent was Ali and Wepner. So? Put paper in front of Wepner and ask him to write a script and you'd end up with a blank piece of paper.

As I understand it, Stallone never denied that Wepner going 12 rounds was an inspiration, and was even willing to compensate Wepner a bit, or give him a part in another movie. My guess is that Stallone got scared off by Wepner, who may have been squeezing Stallone for a piece of the action, a co-starring role, whatever.

That's when Stallone had to back off and not give Chuck any leverage for legal action...to stop discussing the matter. I saw the documentary a long time back, and it was pretty good, if obviously slanted toward Chuck (otherwise, no story...following Chuck around was basically the film).

I don't know if Stallone has "settled" with Chuck quietly, or if the legal action is still going on, but I think Stallone tried to do the right thing and Wepner saw the opening and got greedy. Can't blame him. He sees "Rocky" making 100 million or whatever, and maybe wants 10 percent at least? And Stallone rightly doesn't think that "Pug goes 12 rounds with champ" is worth it. That's six words. Not a script.

Maybe Ed Gein should've sued Robert Bloch and Alfred Hitchcock for a share of "Psycho." But a judge would say he was just crazy.

[bill1234]

Originally Posted by Darkrain

I can't believe Stallone tried to deny that Chuck wasn't the inspiration for Rocky and it was too many similarities of Chuck's life that was in Rocky movies.

And, I can't believe that Ali wanted him to call him a n!ggier. And then he lied about it on that show they was on and said he did call him a n word. Ali was a trip, he talked too f*cking much.

SMH...what the f*ck is wrong with people that they having a Rocky statue and Stallone is in Hall of Fame...that don't make no damn sense cause he's not even a real boxer.

Stallone is in the hall of fame's non participant category, which is for writers, commentators, ring announcers, etc.