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Old 11-27-2012, 08:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi guys i need some help evertime i box i dont so much get nervous as i love boxing but i seem to get too exited before a fight and cant contain my nerves and its really effecting my boxing as when i am in the ring it seems to be sapping my energy,, if anybody suffers with this problem and knows any way of tackeling it i would really appreciate it. i suffer from anxiety and depression so take a tablet called serotoline so i have a fair bit of anxiety as it is but its just really effecting my performance in the ring as when im in the gym i spar 12x3s no problem but when i get in the ring for a ametuer fight which is normally 3x2s i struggle! i cant work it out and its really getting me down! any help would be great thanks
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hi guys i need some help evertime i box i dont so much get nervous as i love boxing but i seem to get too exited before a fight and cant contain my nerves and its really effecting my boxing as when i am in the ring it seems to be sapping my energy,, if anybody suffers with this problem and knows any way of tackeling it i would really appreciate it. i suffer from anxiety and depression so take a tablet called serotoline so i have a fair bit of anxiety as it is but its just really effecting my performance in the ring as when im in the gym i spar 12x3s no problem but when i get in the ring for a ametuer fight which is normally 3x2s i struggle! i cant work it out and its really getting me down! any help would be great thanks
Comes down to breathing, knowing how to and controlling it. Meditation is a good place to start.
Same thing with sex. You nut too early because you get excited, you start breathing heavier with excitement and then you nut.
Breathing can bring down your anxiety as well when it hits you.

Just do some research on breathing and breathing properly. A lot of people do not even breath correctly just in general. Breathe in through your stomach and not your chest.
Just try look into meditation/breathing techniques.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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His problem does not come down to no freaking breathing exercise moron!!! first of all why do you take medication ???? why do you have anxiety and depression ? if you have psychological problems you have to learn to deal with them without medication !!, finding the roots of your problems, will give you the ability to control your moods,if you continue to depend on medication to do this for you, your screwed !!! as long as you take medication you will never be in control, what you need is heavy duty therapy and counseling, mental exercises that will help you regain mental composure and control, a lot of people just don't have a clue that mental disorders are very self treatable, they're too scare or lazy to try, and it does take a lot of effort just like in boxing but it is possible to get off the medication, it will certainly not be easy but it is definitely possible if you believe in your self, find the roots of your dissorder, understand it and you will get the upper hand on it........ seek out support groups of people with the same type of problems, some of the best counseling and therapy will come from people who share the same conditions and have learn to control them or are in the process of doing so, medications only mask the symptoms they do not cure them.....You are not beyond self help , you wouldn't be able to reason if you were, your not organically damaged, I believe your problems have deep psychological roots from early youth, it is up to you to find out what those are, what depresses you , what triggers anxiety attacks and then you will build mental tools that will help you to better deal with your condition...

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His problem does not come down to no freaking breathing exercise moron!!! first of all why do you take medication ???? why do you have anxiety and depression ? if you have psychological problems you have to learn to deal with them without medication !!, finding the roots of your problems, will give you the ability to control your moods,if you continue to depend on medication to do this for you, your screwed !!! as long as you take medication you will never be in control, what you need is heavy duty therapy and counseling, mental exercises that will help you regain mental composure and control, a lot of people just don't have a clue that mental disorders are very self treatable, they're too scare or lazy to try, and it does take a lot of effort just like in boxing but it is possible to get off the medication, it will certainly not be easy but it is definitely possible if you believe in your self, find the roots of your dissorder, understand it and you will get the upper hand on it........ seek out support groups of people with the same type of problems, some of the best counseling and therapy will come from people who share the same conditions and have learn to control them or are in the process of doing so, medications only mask the symptoms they do not cure them.....You are not beyond self help , you wouldn't be able to reason if you were, your not organically damaged, I believe your problems have deep psychological roots from early youth, it is up to you to find out what those are, what depresses you , what triggers anxiety attacks and then you will build mental tools that will help you to better deal with your condition...
thanks mate but im not asking how to deal with my depression i understand what your saying but im not one of the lazy ones ive tried my best without medication its a illness an inbalance of chemicals in the brain i cannot help the way i feel i have nothing to be depressed about thats just the way i am and by taking a tiny tablet everyday helps me ALOT so i dont see why i should stop, i just dont like the fact it interfears with my boxing im not saying it is my anxiety but maybe just that i get a little to exicted before i fight so need help in controlling my nerves on fight day
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thanks mate but im not asking how to deal with my depression i understand what your saying but im not one of the lazy ones ive tried my best without medication its a illness an inbalance of chemicals in the brain i cannot help the way i feel i have nothing to be depressed about thats just the way i am and by taking a tiny tablet everyday helps me ALOT so i dont see why i should stop, i just dont like the fact it interfears with my boxing im not saying it is my anxiety but maybe just that i get a little to exicted before i fight so need help in controlling my nerves on fight day
OK you didn't point out these details in your original post so I gave you advice from a psychological point of view , and now it does seems like your between a rock and hard place, you need to contact an expert on brain function and chemistry, or just keep practicing self control before a fight, I mean is not unusual for a fighter to get some what nervous before a bout, some handle it better than others but it takes a lot of practice, I wouldn't advice taking more medication than the ones your using now, this is something you may be able to work out in time, or simply work out like hell that way you wont burn out even if you do go at it fast right away.. good luck man..
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His problem does not come down to no freaking breathing exercise moron!!! first of all why do you take medication ???? why do you have anxiety and depression ? if you have psychological problems you have to learn to deal with them without medication !!, finding the roots of your problems, will give you the ability to control your moods,if you continue to depend on medication to do this for you, your screwed !!! as long as you take medication you will never be in control, what you need is heavy duty therapy and counseling, mental exercises that will help you regain mental composure and control, a lot of people just don't have a clue that mental disorders are very self treatable, they're too scare or lazy to try, and it does take a lot of effort just like in boxing but it is possible to get off the medication, it will certainly not be easy but it is definitely possible if you believe in your self, find the roots of your dissorder, understand it and you will get the upper hand on it........ seek out support groups of people with the same type of problems, some of the best counseling and therapy will come from people who share the same conditions and have learn to control them or are in the process of doing so, medications only mask the symptoms they do not cure them.....You are not beyond self help , you wouldn't be able to reason if you were, your not organically damaged, I believe your problems have deep psychological roots from early youth, it is up to you to find out what those are, what depresses you , what triggers anxiety attacks and then you will build mental tools that will help you to better deal with your condition...
God you're ******* stupid.

Breathing has ALOT to do with it. If you bothered to read his post, you would have seen that he has no issue with energy and stamina during training, but as soon as the fight night comes, he feels lethargic with 25% of the volume he successfully does in training. He himself says he feels over excited.
Breathing properly has a lot to do with it.

You then give him advice on to fix his anxiety and depression without medication and address the problem. If you had any clue at all, you would know that meditation/breathing is one area (amongst several) that helps address the problem.

As for your comment about seeking support from people who have had similar issues. Well I am one of them, suffered from depression and anxiety for years and years, I got help as well and saw someone for about 3-4 years.
For about 16 months now, I'm in the best physical and mental shape I have ever been in and has been a very tough but rewarding experience.
And I'm the moron, lol.

His energy is fine doing 36 minutes in training, but himself said he gets really excited and loses energy with 9 minutes.
Why not read and listen to what the poster is telling you, rather than ignore everything he says and address issues he never asked you about. Clearly looks like he struggles to control energy levels on fight night (which isn't a lack of fitness).
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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God you're ******* stupid.

Breathing has ALOT to do with it. If you bothered to read his post, you would have seen that he has no issue with energy and stamina during training, but as soon as the fight night comes, he feels lethargic with 25% of the volume he successfully does in training. He himself says he feels over excited.
Breathing properly has a lot to do with it.

You then give him advice on to fix his anxiety and depression without medication and address the problem. If you had any clue at all, you would know that meditation/breathing is one area (amongst several) that helps address the problem.

As for your comment about seeking support from people who have had similar issues. Well I am one of them, suffered from depression and anxiety for years and years, I got help as well and saw someone for about 3-4 years.
For about 16 months now, I'm in the best physical and mental shape I have ever been in and has been a very tough but rewarding experience.
And I'm the moron, lol.

His energy is fine doing 36 minutes in training, but himself said he gets really excited and loses energy with 9 minutes.
Why not read and listen to what the poster is telling you, rather than ignore everything he says and address issues he never asked you about. Clearly looks like he struggles to control energy levels on fight night (which isn't a lack of fitness).
ACCORDING TO HIM THE ROOT OF HIS PROBLEM IS DEPRESSION, and that has nothing to do with proper breathing techniques, if and when his depression is properly treated the rest will fall into place, unfortunately it seems he suffers from an organic, brain, chemical, imbalance that will very likely require permanent medication treatment, all the breathing techniques in the world aint gonna help with his anxiety....... sorry if I sound pessimistic... but that is my diagnosis , take it or leave it,
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thanks mate but im not asking how to deal with my depression i understand what your saying but im not one of the lazy ones ive tried my best without medication its a illness an inbalance of chemicals in the brain i cannot help the way i feel i have nothing to be depressed about thats just the way i am and by taking a tiny tablet everyday helps me ALOT so i dont see why i should stop, i just dont like the fact it interfears with my boxing im not saying it is my anxiety but maybe just that i get a little to exicted before i fight so need help in controlling my nerves on fight day
Here's somebody you should e-mail, this man is a fountain of information,I'm sure he won't mind giving you a bit of well informed advice, his name is Dr Gerald A. Kurtz, he is a psycho analysis , and family therapist email him at DRGKURTZ@YAHOO.COM, GIVE HIM A SHORT STORY of what your going through and I'm sure he'll get back to you, you got nothing to loose, PROBABLY WAY BETTER THAN ASKING THE GENIUSES AROUND HERE, yours truly included..
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He said he suffers from both though whatever is the root of his problem is, they can both trigger one another and can sometimes go hand in hand.
Just goes to show how ignorant you are anyways. As meditation and breathing can help with anxiety a great deal.

Anxiety a lot of the times is caused by thoughts or things you can't control, when you feel anxious you're breathing becomes irregular and your muscles become tight due to stress. The same symptoms can occur due to becoming overly excited (when you nut).
Irregular breathing or tense muscles is not good when fighting and to me there is a good chance any of that can be happening. I've been through it.

As for meditation and breathing, it's all about being in the moment and being in a relaxed state and not all tensed up.
I don't know why you're being extremely ignorant on a subject that you clearly don't know much about.
You can probably find some of this information being given by QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS as well.

For the record, I don't think just breathing is a solution to all of his problems as it is a long and rewarding journey and self discovery but that is one element of it amongst several others.

But based on the info he has given me, there is something that changes from training and fight night and we know that it isn't him being 'unfit'. He says he feels overly excited and I would say that a very high chance he fatigues easier is because of the tense muscles and breathing at a different rate.
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He said he suffers from both though whatever is the root of his problem is, they can both trigger one another and can sometimes go hand in hand.
Just goes to show how ignorant you are anyways. As meditation and breathing can help with anxiety a great deal.

Anxiety a lot of the times is caused by thoughts or things you can't control, when you feel anxious you're breathing becomes irregular and your muscles become tight due to stress. The same symptoms can occur due to becoming overly excited (when you nut).
Irregular breathing or tense muscles is not good when fighting and to me there is a good chance any of that can be happening. I've been through it.

As for meditation and breathing, it's all about being in the moment and being in a relaxed state and not all tensed up.
I don't know why you're being extremely ignorant on a subject that you clearly don't know much about.
You can probably find some of this information being given by QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS as well.

For the record, I don't think just breathing is a solution to all of his problems as it is a long and rewarding journey and self discovery but that is one element of it amongst several others.

But based on the info he has given me, there is something that changes from training and fight night and we know that it isn't him being 'unfit'. He says he feels overly excited and I would say that a very high chance he fatigues easier is because of the tense muscles and breathing at a different rate.
Why am I ignorant ? cause I don't agree with you ?? why don't you go do some meditating on learning how to agree to disagree, see if it works ,if it does than maybe I'll give your theory a little credit OK , PEACE MAN !!!!!
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