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12-09-2012, 01:53 PM
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#81 (permalink)
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I Coulda Been a Contenda
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Originally Posted by SweetScienceTKO
Sure, but I'd much rather see what JMM can do against Mayweather in a rematch.. Call me inquiring mind!!!
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I definitely dont want to see JMM vs May again. What can JMM do differently against Floyd who is the supreme boxer that's faster, better defensively, taller , has longer reach, and probably stronger? Plus JMM is not as good when he has be be the aggressor.
Until the KO happened, JMM was getting hit with a lot of head shots and getting busted up. Floyd would never wade in reckless like Pac did. He'd be happy just to bust him up again. Absolutely NO reason for a rematch with Mayweather.
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12-09-2012, 01:59 PM
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#82 (permalink)
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tellin' it like it is
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Originally Posted by Speedkills
I definitely dont want to see JMM vs May again. What can JMM do differently against Floyd who is the supreme boxer that's faster, better defensively, taller , has longer reach, and probably stronger? Plus JMM is not as good when he has be be the aggressor.
Until the KO happened, JMM was getting hit with a lot of head shots and getting busted up. Floyd would never wade in reckless like Pac did. He'd be happy just to bust him up again. Absolutely NO reason for a rematch with Mayweather.
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the mexican faithful could possibly cause that fight to happen again. no to mention the misguided logic that this is a "new jmm" when the fact is he's only a bit stronger
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12-09-2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDigga
chilling my dude!
that dj will still hate on floyd i bet 
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I LOvE the gifs man!
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Originally Posted by SoSallyCanWait
This site makes me laugh. Disgraceful to post pics like the ones in this thread. Why cant people just credit both fighters for a great fight. Pacman and juan r both all time greats, no doubt. This rivalry is a throw back to the old days, and as someone has already said fuc! floyd vs pac, bring on pacman vs marquez 5. Boxing needs this sort of rivalry. To many frauds in boxing today and i feel honoured to have seen warriors like manny and juan throw leather 4 times and i want more. I fancied marquez for this one and i do fear pac is on the downslide but i'd love number 5. Martinez fighting floyd at 154 is the only floyd fight im interested in as regards floyd. He would alwsys beat manny.
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It's the fault of his fans and promotion for cramming him down people's throats as the greatest ever all while the intelligent fans knew from the beginning he couldn't box for ****. Marquez beat that ass three times now, and Floyd would have toyed with him. This is boxing. No whining about gifs last I checked. Just sayin.
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Originally Posted by poof101
Fight roids with roids. Marquez did just that and fed Pacman some of his own medicine.
Just for the record, there was NO testing for HGH, EPO, or synthetic steroids for this fight, and no random testing. Roach tried to throw a hint about Marquez juicing but backpedaled when confronted because he would look like a hypocrite accusing Marquez when they bitched about Floyd wanting random testing. Karma is a beautiful thing.....
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Love this post. I was shocked to see his Stans crying roids on espn last night.
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12-09-2012, 04:19 PM
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tellin' it like it is
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Originally Posted by SugarShane
I LOvE the gifs man!
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Originally Posted by SugarShane
It's the fault of his fans and promotion for cramming him down people's throats as the greatest ever all while the intelligent fans knew from the beginning he couldn't box for ****. Marquez beat that ass three times now, and Floyd would have toyed with him. This is boxing. No whining about gifs last I checked. Just sayin.
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the truth 
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12-09-2012, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SugarShane
I LOvE the gifs man!
It's the fault of his fans and promotion for cramming him down people's throats as the greatest ever all while the intelligent fans knew from the beginning he couldn't box for ****. Marquez beat that ass three times now, and Floyd would have toyed with him. This is boxing. No whining about gifs last I checked. Just sayin.
Love this post. I was shocked to see his Stans crying roids on espn last night.
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Definitely not the greatest ever, or the best boxer, but to say he can't box for **** is a bit of an exaggeration haha.
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12-09-2012, 06:23 PM
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12-09-2012, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chooi
Definitely not the greatest ever, or the best boxer, but to say he can't box for **** is a bit of an exaggeration haha.
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In relation to your average human being, Pacquiao can box very well. In relation to other boxers? Pacquaio can't box for ****.
It's a fact that most Pacquaio fans refuse to acknowledge. Pac's footwork is horrendous, he constantly leaves the ground with both feet, he constantly gets both feet together after his lunges (which he then use to springboard either backward or to the side, resulting in both feet leaving the ground as mentioned above).
He doesn't have much of a jab and his defense is worse than his footwork. His boxing intelligence is a little low, he continuously chooses macho-ism over smart fighting. Letting Marg and Cotto bang him against the ropes and going full retard against JMM are all great examples.
Pacquaio has succeeded through great matchmaking, spectacular cardio, great speed and a ferocious tenacity. His erratic style that is a result of his lunging and jumping works wonderfully against come forward, low technique fighters (aka most Mexicans). It doesn't work against the kinds of fighters he lost to, looked pedestrian against and those whom he dodged.
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12-09-2012, 07:45 PM
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why don't you go in there and show the world how it is done?
Lot's of critics that never got anywhere
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12-09-2012, 08:22 PM
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Memo Heredia is as dirty as it gets... He already claimed to have at least 20 undetectable designed formulas.
Now, that is no secret and was no secret, for at least a whole year now Pacquiao's camp knew what they were dealing with but still made no effort whatsoever to try to bring testing to the table... They didnt bother 
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12-09-2012, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by o336MR
In relation to your average human being, Pacquiao can box very well. In relation to other boxers? Pacquaio can't box for ****.
It's a fact that most Pacquaio fans refuse to acknowledge. Pac's footwork is horrendous, he constantly leaves the ground with both feet, he constantly gets both feet together after his lunges (which he then use to springboard either backward or to the side, resulting in both feet leaving the ground as mentioned above).
He doesn't have much of a jab and his defense is worse than his footwork. His boxing intelligence is a little low, he continuously chooses macho-ism over smart fighting. Letting Marg and Cotto bang him against the ropes and going full retard against JMM are all great examples.
Pacquaio has succeeded through great matchmaking, spectacular cardio, great speed and a ferocious tenacity. His erratic style that is a result of his lunging and jumping works wonderfully against come forward, low technique fighters (aka most Mexicans). It doesn't work against the kinds of fighters he lost to, looked pedestrian against and those whom he dodged.
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Ahh, so by saying he can't box for ****, you're saying he's not technically sound, at least by traditional standards. I definitely agree with you if you're using that rubric.
But he does what works for him, and it's gotten him pretty far. And yes, part of that is matchmaking, but most boxers would seek out fights that give them the best chance of winning. He's also craftier and has more defense than most people give him credit for, even if he is a sh1t show from a purist's standpoint. Tebow when he was with the Broncos is an apt comparison. You might be thinking wth is this guy doing, but somehow he wins. 
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