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01-02-2013, 01:58 PM
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#31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by fsenties4
Lots of fighters have cheated before and you bringing up JMM, who went through his tests and came up clean; and Margarito, who received a fine and was suspended but when he asked for the evidence it got "lost" (funny, isn't?) it makes me wonder if maybe you have something against this 2 particular boxers.
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JMM did not go thru a real PED screen. Everyone in boxing knows and has called the Nevada test a joke; Victor Conte in a recent interview diagnosed the Nevada test and called it an "IQ" test (meaning, if you are smart enough, you will know how to pass it.
BUT WHAT THE F4CK IS ANYONE TALKING ABOUT?? Most commentators on the night of the fight expressed their opinion that JMM CHEATED!!! HE WAS ON STEROIDS!! After the fight, Erik Morales twitted "the Mexican pharmacy was better" - Bill "the Sports Guy" Simmons twitted "Can Marquez's live post-fight drug test be added to the price of tonight's big fight? I'd happily pay an extra 20 bucks"
Jim Lampley in post fight shows expressed the same, and so did Larry Merchant. And remember, all these guys know that if they say anything they can be sued for slander.
WHAT THE F4CK IS EVERYONE SO AFRAID TO ADMIT TO WHAT WE ALL SAW?
I feel like freaking Mugato ("Who cares about Derek Zoolander anyway? The man only has one look for christ's sake! Blue steel, Ferrari, Le Tigre? They're the same face! Doesn't anyone notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!")
Am I the only one that sees the freaking obvious truth that Marquez CHEATED?!?!? He is a cheater! he took steroids, looked like a bodybuilder for the fight, and doesn't even care about the common sense that boxing fans have.
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01-02-2013, 05:54 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ElMillionario
Am I the only one that sees the freaking obvious truth that Marquez CHEATED?!?!? He is a cheater! he took steroids, looked like a bodybuilder for the fight, and doesn't even care about the common sense that boxing fans have.
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The real question is why are people upset when a drug cheat is beaten by another guy using the same thing?
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01-02-2013, 06:01 PM
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#33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Bigblock
The real question is why are people upset when a drug cheat is beaten by another guy using the same thing?
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BECAUSE THEY ARE DESTROYING THE SPORT!!!! ALL OF THEM!! It doesn't matter if it was one or two guys cheating, its B-A-D for boxing.
I'm not 100% convinced that Pacquiao cheated, but if he did, it wasn't as obvious or as bad as JMM.
But let's say that Paq did cheat, then he should also be viewed same as JMM. But Marquez really cheated, most commentators have also agreed. This is Sammy Sosa-Mark McGuirre obvious.
Look, boxers that are cheating are destroying the sport. JMM IS A CHEATER!! And anyone who is trying to deny it, is doing mental gymnastics worthy of an Olympic gold medal.
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01-02-2013, 07:24 PM
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#34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ElMillionario
BECAUSE THEY ARE DESTROYING THE SPORT!!!! ALL OF THEM!! It doesn't matter if it was one or two guys cheating, its B-A-D for boxing.
I'm not 100% convinced that Pacquiao cheated, but if he did, it wasn't as obvious or as bad as JMM.
But let's say that Paq did cheat, then he should also be viewed same as JMM. But Marquez really cheated, most commentators have also agreed. This is Sammy Sosa-Mark McGuirre obvious.
Look, boxers that are cheating are destroying the sport. JMM IS A CHEATER!! And anyone who is trying to deny it, is doing mental gymnastics worthy of an Olympic gold medal.
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LOL, it's no wonder you're a Pac fan. Marquez "really cheated"??? It wasn't "as bad as JMM"???
If you do something that is not allowed to do, you're cheating, period.
JMM's body DID look llke Rocky Balboa, but don't tell me that a guy who fought at flyweight smashing a guy who is a natural lightmiddle (and that on fight night had a +15 pound advantage) IS NOT THAT SUSPICIOUS??? or "as bad" as JMM??
I've never sweared JMM was clean, I just said the only existing evidence says he is clean, aswell as Pacquiao.
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01-10-2013, 01:17 AM
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#35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ElMillionario
JMM did not go thru a real PED screen. Everyone in boxing knows and has called the Nevada test a joke; Victor Conte in a recent interview diagnosed the Nevada test and called it an "IQ" test (meaning, if you are smart enough, you will know how to pass it.
BUT WHAT THE F4CK IS ANYONE TALKING ABOUT?? Most commentators on the night of the fight expressed their opinion that JMM CHEATED!!! HE WAS ON STEROIDS!! After the fight, Erik Morales twitted "the Mexican pharmacy was better" - Bill "the Sports Guy" Simmons twitted "Can Marquez's live post-fight drug test be added to the price of tonight's big fight? I'd happily pay an extra 20 bucks"
Jim Lampley in post fight shows expressed the same, and so did Larry Merchant. And remember, all these guys know that if they say anything they can be sued for slander.
WHAT THE F4CK IS EVERYONE SO AFRAID TO ADMIT TO WHAT WE ALL SAW?
I feel like freaking Mugato ("Who cares about Derek Zoolander anyway? The man only has one look for christ's sake! Blue steel, Ferrari, Le Tigre? They're the same face! Doesn't anyone notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!")
Am I the only one that sees the freaking obvious truth that Marquez CHEATED?!?!? He is a cheater! he took steroids, looked like a bodybuilder for the fight, and doesn't even care about the common sense that boxing fans have.
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what's funny is how you harp on this like pac didn't get one either. why act like only jmm's absolutely cheating? pac had accusations thrown his way so why so onesided? weren't you one of "regular commission test are all that's needed" crowd when the drug testing topic concerned mayweather/pac?
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01-12-2013, 07:04 PM
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#36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by chooi
Floyd showing some class...and hinting that he'd still take the Pac fight if the money is still good. Although, I don't know how he could "praise the performances of both fighters" when he hasn't even seen the fight 
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Those are pre fabricated interviews by Ben Thompson. 
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01-12-2013, 07:07 PM
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#37 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by fsenties4
LOL, it's no wonder you're a Pac fan. Marquez "really cheated"??? It wasn't "as bad as JMM"???
If you do something that is not allowed to do, you're cheating, period.
JMM's body DID look llke Rocky Balboa, but don't tell me that a guy who fought at flyweight smashing a guy who is a natural lightmiddle (and that on fight night had a +15 pound advantage) IS NOT THAT SUSPICIOUS??? or "as bad" as JMM??
I've never sweared JMM was clean, I just said the only existing evidence says he is clean, aswell as Pacquiao.
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Marquez legs are as skiny as they were when he was at 130! 
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01-16-2013, 10:21 AM
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#38 (permalink)
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I think Pacquiao was on something previously... Not sure for this fight because increasingly Ariza's time with Pac decreased and his body didnt look what it did against Cotto...
And I think Marquez was on something, not only his body, but his face looked like one who's using something.
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01-16-2013, 10:34 PM
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#39 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Megarodon
I think Pacquiao was on something previously... Not sure for this fight because increasingly Ariza's time with Pac decreased and his body didnt look what it did against Cotto...
And I think Marquez was on something, not only his body, but his face looked like one who's using something.
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Mega, who's the girl on your sig?
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01-16-2013, 11:00 PM
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#40 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by eco7077
Mega, who's the girl on your sig?
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her name is Larissa Riquelme
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