[Badger]

A Very well thoughout and concise analysis DRP.

I just wonder with Mayweathers Dancing, Wrestling and other side shows is he still really, i mean REALLY REALLY MEAN AND HUNGRY AND interested enough in being a boxer (lets face it a very very hard life)or with all these distractions is he now vulnerable and in danger of doing a Don Curry when things start to go wrong

Badger

[ulster86]

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

With Explanation, if it is A>B, this means A is better in that category than B.

Speed - Mayweather>Cotto - Mayweather is P4P the fastest all around fighter, in reflexes, foot speed, and hand speed (second to Judah only in hands).

Power - Mayweather<Cotto - Cotto has shown his superior power in all his fights taking it with him to WW by knocking out 4 out of 5 fighters he faced at 147, including a common opponent in Judah.

Stamina - Mayweather=Cotto - They have both proven their stamina as I have never seen neither tired. They consistenly throw the same number of punches being able to turn the production up later in the fight.

Chin - Mayweather>Cotto - Floyd has never been hurt or put down by a blow at any weight class. Cotto has been hurt and down at 140, but shows a better chin at 147 (even though he was stunned by Judah a couple times in their fight).

Body - Mayweather<Cotto - Miguel took really hard body shots from Mosley and kept strong throughout the fight, while JLC seemed to take away PBF' legs away.

Defense - Mayweather>Cotto - Money is contested only by Hopkins in who has the best defense of all active boxers.

Bodywork - Mayweather<Cotto - Cotto is the best body puncher in the game, getting numerous knockdowns and knockouts with bodypunches, also wearing down fighters who refuse to go down. Mayweather' bodypunching is underated as he can go to the body when he knos he's gonna need to, but he mostly uses it to get fighters to lower their guard.

Intangibles - Mayweather=Cotto - Floyd can box and put pressure in the middle of a fight, Miguel can do the same. Cotto' heart and determination is unquestionable, he can come back from losing rounds and being knocked down to knockout. PBF' boxing IQ is second only to Hopkins, he's able to follow his corners' direction to a tee, and has showed his heart and unwillingness to lose.

I know this should be a thread but theres all ready a bunch, so F it. What do yall think?

Great post. We know Cotto can bounce back from being badly hurt and dominate the fight but Mayweather has never been in that situation. I'm sure Cotto will have him hurt at some stage so it'll be interesting to see how he copes.

[Balistik]

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

With Explanation, if it is A>B, this means A is better in that category than B.

Speed - Mayweather>Cotto - Mayweather is P4P the fastest all around fighter, in reflexes, foot speed, and hand speed (second to Judah only in hands).

I agree about Floyd but I think Jones has the fastest hands today.

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

Body - Mayweather<Cotto - Miguel took really hard body shots from Mosley and kept strong throughout the fight, while JLC seemed to take away PBF' legs away.

I think they're about even in the midsection department. Cotto seemed to have been hurt by one of Mosley's bodyshots.

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

Defense - Mayweather>Cotto - Money is contested only by Hopkins in who has the best defense of all active boxers.

Floyd is probably the best defensive fighter ever. Even Whitaker and Pep got hit more than him.

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

Bodywork - Mayweather<Cotto - Cotto is the best body puncher in the game, getting numerous knockdowns and knockouts with bodypunches, also wearing down fighters who refuse to go down. Mayweather' bodypunching is underated as he can go to the body when he knos he's gonna need to, but he mostly uses it to get fighters to lower their guard.

Floyd is a great bodypuncher too. He has stopped some guys with bodyshots but he doesn't focus on the body as much as Cotto does.

I'd like to add :

Combinations - Cotto>Mayweather

Single shots - Mayweather>Cotto

Accuracy - Mayweather>Cotto

Timing - Mayweather = Cotto

[Brutus]

Maywather deserves to be mentioned with Pep and Whitaker when we mention the best defense boxers of all time imo.

[BigDigga]

Originally Posted by SugarShane

Cotto has deceptive speed, but its really his timing that makes him look so fast.

exactamundo!

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

That is true. This is how the atributes look for me, Ill explain why but not now.

Speed-Mayweather>Cotto
Power-Mayweather<Cotto
Stamina-Mayweather=Cotto
Chin-Mayweather>Cotto
Body-Mayweather<Cotto
Defense-Mayweather>Cotto
Bodywork-Mayweather<Cotto
Intangibles-Mayweather=Cotto

Speed-Mayweather>Cotto......i agree
Power-Mayweather<Cotto......i agree
Stamina-Mayweather=Cotto....i disagree. floyd has the better stamina.
Chin-Mayweather>Cotto.......i agree
Body-Mayweather<Cotto.......i disagree. i think floyd is in better shape body wise.
Defense-Mayweather>Cotto....i agree
Bodywork-Mayweather<Cotto...i agree being that cotto focuses on the body more than floyd. but floyd puts in work there too.
Intangibles-Mayweather=Cotto

[Mr. Magoo]

I really don't know if either of these men are ducking the other, but as a life long boxing fan, I am rather used to this sort of frustating let down.

It has long been my opinion that boxing was the source of its own demise, and failure to create the necessary matchups needed to maintain interest was a major part of the equation. Yes, I am sure that we will see a Mayweather vs Cotto match at some point. Unfortunately, it will probably come in two or three years after both men are past their primes and have acquired their first loss(es). To the uneducated general public, the match will have every bit of the charm that Mayweather-DelaHoya had. To the loyal and knowledgable boxing fan however, it will have no where near the magnitude that it ordinarily would have had if it occurred right this moment.

A rematch between Pretty boy and Golden boy is an insult to the sport's most loyal subjects. It is because of poster attraction matches like these that so many avid viewers have turned their attention to other venues of entertainment over the years. The average Joe nobody is easily enchanted by celebrity stardom, which sadly is what boxing creates its events around. The informed fans and experts prefer to see the very best compete with each other regardless of name recognition. For decades, boxing has slapped its dedicated followers in the face, by starving them out of their rightful desire to see the best contests put into action.

[SugarShane]

Originally Posted by Balistik

I'll bet all my points on Cotto come fight time.

I'll take that bet and give you better odds than vBookie.

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

With Explanation, if it is A>B, this means A is better in that category than B.

Speed - Mayweather>Cotto - Mayweather is P4P the fastest all around fighter, in reflexes, foot speed, and hand speed (second to Judah only in hands).

Power - Mayweather<Cotto - Cotto has shown his superior power in all his fights taking it with him to WW by knocking out 4 out of 5 fighters he faced at 147, including a common opponent in Judah.

Stamina - Mayweather=Cotto - They have both proven their stamina as I have never seen neither tired. They consistenly throw the same number of punches being able to turn the production up later in the fight.

Chin - Mayweather>Cotto - Floyd has never been hurt or put down by a blow at any weight class. Cotto has been hurt and down at 140, but shows a better chin at 147 (even though he was stunned by Judah a couple times in their fight).

Body - Mayweather<Cotto - Miguel took really hard body shots from Mosley and kept strong throughout the fight, while JLC seemed to take away PBF' legs away.

Defense - Mayweather>Cotto - Money is contested only by Hopkins in who has the best defense of all active boxers.

Bodywork - Mayweather<Cotto - Cotto is the best body puncher in the game, getting numerous knockdowns and knockouts with bodypunches, also wearing down fighters who refuse to go down. Mayweather' bodypunching is underated as he can go to the body when he knos he's gonna need to, but he mostly uses it to get fighters to lower their guard.

Intangibles - Mayweather=Cotto - Floyd can box and put pressure in the middle of a fight, Miguel can do the same. Cotto' heart and determination is unquestionable, he can come back from losing rounds and being knocked down to knockout. PBF' boxing IQ is second only to Hopkins, he's able to follow his corners' direction to a tee, and has showed his heart and unwillingness to lose.

I know this should be a thread but theres all ready a bunch, so F it. What do yall think?

Great post. I agree with most of it.

Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo

I really don't know if either of these men are ducking the other, but as a life long boxing fan, I am rather used to this sort of frustating let down.

It has long been my opinion that boxing was the source of its own demise, and failure to create the necessary matchups needed to maintain interest was a major part of the equation. Yes, I am sure that we will see a Mayweather vs Cotto match at some point. Unfortunately, it will probably come in two or three years after both men are past their primes and have acquired their first loss(es). To the uneducated general public, the match will have every bit of the charm that Mayweather-DelaHoya had. To the loyal and knowledgable boxing fan however, it will have no where near the magnitude that it ordinarily would have had if it occurred right this moment.

A rematch between Pretty boy and Golden boy is an insult to the sport's most loyal subjects. It is because of poster attraction matches like these that so many avid viewers have turned their attention to other venues of entertainment over the years. The average Joe nobody is easily enchanted by celebrity stardom, which sadly is what boxing creates its events around. The informed fans and experts prefer to see the very best compete with each other regardless of name recognition. For decades, boxing has slapped its dedicated followers in the face, by starving them out of their rightful desire to see the best contests put into action.

Mayweather-Cotto: 2009

[NFFC]

Originally Posted by Badger

A Very well thoughout and concise analysis DRP.

I just wonder with Mayweathers Dancing, Wrestling and other side shows is he still really, i mean REALLY REALLY MEAN AND HUNGRY AND interested enough in being a boxer (lets face it a very very hard life)or with all these distractions is he now vulnerable and in danger of doing a Don Curry when things start to go wrong

Badger

This is basically what I've put in another post. Once Mayweather takes his eyes off the ball he's going to give his opponent chances - even De La Hoya if he's not careful. I think Mayweather Cotto will probably happen next summer.

[AUDI99]

Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST

With Explanation, if it is A>B, this means A is better in that category than B.

Speed - Mayweather>Cotto - Mayweather is P4P the fastest all around fighter, in reflexes, foot speed, and hand speed (second to Judah only in hands).

Power - Mayweather<Cotto - Cotto has shown his superior power in all his fights taking it with him to WW by knocking out 4 out of 5 fighters he faced at 147, including a common opponent in Judah.

Stamina - Mayweather=Cotto - They have both proven their stamina as I have never seen neither tired. They consistenly throw the same number of punches being able to turn the production up later in the fight.

Chin - Mayweather>Cotto - Floyd has never been hurt or put down by a blow at any weight class. Cotto has been hurt and down at 140, but shows a better chin at 147 (even though he was stunned by Judah a couple times in their fight).

Body - Mayweather<Cotto - Miguel took really hard body shots from Mosley and kept strong throughout the fight, while JLC seemed to take away PBF' legs away.

Defense - Mayweather>Cotto - Money is contested only by Hopkins in who has the best defense of all active boxers.

Bodywork - Mayweather<Cotto - Cotto is the best body puncher in the game, getting numerous knockdowns and knockouts with bodypunches, also wearing down fighters who refuse to go down. Mayweather' bodypunching is underated as he can go to the body when he knos he's gonna need to, but he mostly uses it to get fighters to lower their guard.

Intangibles - Mayweather=Cotto - Floyd can box and put pressure in the middle of a fight, Miguel can do the same. Cotto' heart and determination is unquestionable, he can come back from losing rounds and being knocked down to knockout. PBF' boxing IQ is second only to Hopkins, he's able to follow his corners' direction to a tee, and has showed his heart and unwillingness to lose.

I know this should be a thread but theres all ready a bunch, so F it. What do yall think?

I agree with u 99%, IMO i think Cotto has gotten better in the defense department(as seen at the Mosley fight) he looked a little like Floyd when he fought DLH, he took some shots then he gave some shots, but even dough their defense are totally difrent i think it protects them equally, but besides that ur right on the money.....