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Old 05-28-2008, 05:14 PM   #1691 (permalink)
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Certainly was both!
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:16 PM   #1692 (permalink)
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:24 PM   #1693 (permalink)
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2-0 England. Very easy
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:39 PM   #1694 (permalink)
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if hatton was ducking witter, then floyld is ducking cotto.

same excuses if they don't bring the money.

before the bradley fight witter was still seen as dangerous. both are/were high risk, low reward fights. hatton didn't need the wbc belt. he was making cash and didn;t need to cahse him.

floyld is making money with golden boy. why cahse the msot dangerous guy in the division?
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:57 PM   #1695 (permalink)
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Witter had a fight when Hatton was available. Mayweather has a fight with Oscar which has been planned since he stopped Hatton. If Floyd doesn't fight Cotto and Cotto remains undefeated through next year I'll be the first to call him a duck. A guy isn't a duck just because fans want to see a fight and ignore what is already lined up.
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:59 PM   #1696 (permalink)
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Agreed, if 09 comes and goes without floyd fighting cotto, i'll agree with you guys as well, but as for now, he's just building the fight imo.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:11 PM   #1697 (permalink)
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Agreed, if 09 comes and goes without floyd fighting cotto, i'll agree with you guys as well, but as for now, he's just building the fight imo.
Now that Richard schaefer said that he wants Ricky to have 3 more fights after Malignaggi before facing Floyd I'm confident the fight with Cotto will happen in 09 if they both win their next fights.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:13 PM   #1698 (permalink)
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If Mayweather were to take on and beat Cotto, I'd be the first to give him his props, but at this point, it's much ado about nothing. As far as a potential mega showdown between these guys goes, I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe, just maybe, if public demand reaches a fever pitch and the payday is upped considerably, then Mayweather will look to Cotto. Until then, I have no reason to believe he'd take that risk when he can get huge purses from rematches with guys he's already beaten or guys he's all but guaranteed to beat. I can't help but forget when Mayweather passed up what would have been his biggest payday at the time, 8 million to face Margarito. Say what you want that he was waiting to see what happened between De La Hoya and Mayorga, but he's a fighter and fighter's are supposed to fight. Guys that sit idly by watching and waiting, always looking for the next big thing when they could be taking on the best in their division and cleaning out said division miss the boat and will not be remembered in the pantheon of all-time greats.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:23 PM   #1699 (permalink)
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If Mayweather were to take on and beat Cotto, I'd be the first to give him his props, but at this point, it's much ado about nothing. As far as a potential mega showdown between these guys goes, I'll believe it when I see it. Maybe, just maybe, if public demand reaches a fever pitch and the payday is upped considerably, then Mayweather will look to Cotto. Until then, I have no reason to believe he'd take that risk when he can get huge purses from rematches with guys he's already beaten or guys he's all but guaranteed to beat. I can't help but forget when Mayweather passed up what would have been his biggest payday at the time, 8 million to face Margarito. Say what you want that he was waiting to see what happened between De La Hoya and Mayorga, but he's a fighter and fighter's are supposed to fight. Guys that sit idly by watching and waiting, always looking for the next big thing when they could be taking on the best in their division and cleaning out said division miss the boat and will not be remembered in the pantheon of all-time greats.
I agree with some of this, but Floyd ended up making more than 8 million fighting Baldomir. Baldomir hadn't lost a fight in 10 years either, and Floyd made him look like an amateur. I have wanted to see Mayweather-Margarito for years, because the "Floyd ducked Margarito" claim has been on of the haters (not you) favorite thing to use against Floyd for years. If they fought I'd pick Floyd to win a lopsided decision around 118-110. That fight wouldn't even be competitive in my opinion.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:32 PM   #1700 (permalink)
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You never know, maybe the way you envision it is exactly how it would play out. I give Margarito a good chance because he's tough as nails and is an effective pressure fighter. Whether or not he would have been stood a better chance two years ago or today, I'm not sure. Striking his loss to Paul Williams from the record, I will say that I think present day Margarito would appear to be a bigger threat to Mayweather than Castillo seemed to be going into their first encounter and Jose Luis ended up giving PBF the toughest run for his money of anyone yet. Another big question to ask is whether Mayweather was a better fighter back then at lightweight or is he better now? He was 25 then (supposedly prime years) and he's 31 now.
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