[NFFC]

Originally Posted by RingDocter

I view Oscar De La Hoya as a better fighter than Margarito. I like the fact that Floyd picked the toughest possible fight that was available to him for 2008.

So do I. Even though Oscar is 35

[RingDocter]

Originally Posted by C.J.Rock

LOL you guys are great entertainment watching you scratch for excuses so you can back mayweather is better than a soap opera lol
I just wonder what y'all are gonna do if mayweather does fight the cotto/margarito winner and gets his butt KO'd that'll be hilarious

I'll just ask for a rematch.

Originally Posted by Megarodon

I wouldnt say Floyd took the toughest available in 2008 and I'm not nearly satisfied with that and as great as Oscar is a rematch seems much less intriging and tough than a fight with Cotto. We know Floyd is not fighting Oscar again because its tough, the reason is his nickname. But it is what it is and complaining about it wont help on anything, and I WILL WATCH THE REMATCH, maybe its not as wanted as a Cotto fight but it Doesnt mean its not a good fight.

What was the toughest available fight then?

Sure, Oscar is the biggest money fight... But that doesn't take away the fact that he is still a great fighter with a naturally bigger build than Floyd. Being a cash cow doesn't equate to being a poor fighter. On the contrary, there is a reason why a fighter is, was, or continues to be a cash cow and a big name both to the hardcore and casual boxing fans.


I just see Mayweather's last opponent as a far greater challange than Cotto's last opponent. I also see Mayweather's next opponent as a greater challange than Cotto's next opponent. Mayweather is fighting the tougher competition. That's how I see it.

[Balistik]

Originally Posted by ringsider

Can I just comment on part of your post ( Floyd would CONSIDER fighting Cotto if he beats Margarito) ??? Its not a matter of him CONSIDERING it is it. If Floyd hopes to retain any credibility he now has he has GOT to defend his Ring welterweight title against the winner of Cotto/Margarito as soon as possible. Any action other than this and surely no boxing fan could support him any further. He claims he is the best fighter ever lets see him prove it and stop the money talk

When you talk about Floyd, forget about credibility, legacy and all that stuff. Money is what counts. I'm not defending him I'm just explaining how he chooses his opponents. I don't agree with that but it is what it is. He doesn't care about the welterweight division, the ring belt or even P4P rankings (besides the #1 spot). He cares about $$$. You would think people already knew it but some just can't get that in their head.

Originally Posted by RingDocter

What was the toughest available fight then?

Sure, Oscar is the biggest money fight... But that doesn't take away the fact that he is still a great fighter with a naturally bigger build than Floyd. Being a cash cow doesn't equate to being a poor fighter. On the contrary, there is a reason why a fighter is, was, or continues to be a cash cow and a big name both to the hardcore and casual boxing fans.


I just see Mayweather's last opponent as a far greater challange than Cotto's last opponent. I also see Mayweather's next opponent as a greater challange than Cotto's next opponent. Mayweather is fighting the tougher competition. That's how I see it.

I respect you Doc but that's just ludicrous. Are you saying Ricky Hatton is a far greater challenge than Shane Mosley at 147?????
Oscar is a better fighter than Margarito hands down. But at this stage of his career he's not nearly as dangerous as Margy. I like Forbes but Margarito would stop him. Who's more likely to win a decision against Floyd or Cotto? Oscar. Who's more likely to stop them? Margy because he's relentless. Oscar's power has disappeared for some reason.

[goldenbhoy]

quick question, presuming Floyd does fight Cotto in 2009, and lets just say he beats Cotto convincingly(i not saying he will, just hypethetical) who do we all say he has to fight then,who can we say hes ducking then?

TBH if Floyd beats Cotto, i struggle to see a meaningful fight in boxing for him, unless he goes up to a ridulous weight

[daveDaboxingfan]

Originally Posted by goldenbhoy

quick question, presuming Floyd does fight Cotto in 2009, and lets just say he beats Cotto convincingly(i not saying he will, just hypethetical) who do we all say he has to fight then,who can we say hes ducking then?

TBH if Floyd beats Cotto, i struggle to see a meaningful fight in boxing for him, unless he goes up to a ridulous weight

If he beats Cotto convincingly I’ll be the first to say that he is currently the best at 147#.

But today the #guy at 147 is Cotto.

[Megarodon]

Originally Posted by RingDocter

What was the toughest available fight then?

Sure, Oscar is the biggest money fight... But that doesn't take away the fact that he is still a great fighter with a naturally bigger build than Floyd. Being a cash cow doesn't equate to being a poor fighter. On the contrary, there is a reason why a fighter is, was, or continues to be a cash cow and a big name both to the hardcore and casual boxing fans.

I just see Mayweather's last opponent as a far greater challange than Cotto's last opponent. I also see Mayweather's next opponent as a greater challange than Cotto's next opponent. Mayweather is fighting the tougher competition. That's how I see it.

I gotta agree with Balistik, Hatton isnt as dangerous as Margarito and Floyd did handpick Ricky Hatton, because he was smaller slower less skilled and could bring plenty of money to the table.. Oscar being dangerous is Oscar's credit, the point is Floyd took it for money. I mean imagine if Ray Leonard was to come out of retirement and fight floyd, the fight could turn out to be huge in terms of money and I dont doubt pbf would take it. Oscar being good or not is beyond the danger, hes willing to take the fight because it offers enough money to make up his mind on losing, but wait, floyds not gonna lose nor does he believes he can lose this one.
Margarito is much more dangerous at this point, he has power, hes relentless and not everybody wants a fight with him once he doesnt bring money to afford your loss.
If Cotto's camp wanted too he could fight another "contender" fighter and look good once again, but hes fighting someone he doesnt have to necessarily..
Sorry Doc but I cant believe you're actually giving credit to 2008's fights floyd is picking after a year he spent chasing money. Its all business and I get it, just dont tell me hes doing it the hard way.

[SugarShane]

Originally Posted by Balistik

When you talk about Floyd, forget about credibility, legacy and all that stuff. Money is what counts. I'm not defending him I'm just explaining how he chooses his opponents. I don't agree with that but it is what it is. He doesn't care about the welterweight division, the ring belt or even P4P rankings (besides the #1 spot). He cares about $$$. You would think people already knew it but some just can't get that in their head.



I respect you Doc but that's just ludicrous. Are you saying Ricky Hatton is a far greater challenge than Shane Mosley at 147?????
Oscar is a better fighter than Margarito hands down. But at this stage of his career he's not nearly as dangerous as Margy. I like Forbes but Margarito would stop him. Who's more likely to win a decision against Floyd or Cotto? Oscar. Who's more likely to stop them? Margy because he's relentless. Oscar's power has disappeared for some reason.

Forbes would outbox Margarito.

[ulster86]

I think Marg would UD Forbes

[TysonJones]

Originally Posted by daveDaboxingfan

If he beats Cotto convincingly I’ll be the first to say that he is currently the best at 147#.

But today the #guy at 147 is Cotto.

Let me Squash all of this with one post.

Why because cotto beat a 36 year old mosley and beat a fighter floyd already did in zab, an overrated number 10 ranked urkel and then a tune up against gomez. Oh yeah, he also beat quintana.........If that means anything.

Trust me I'm a huge cotto fan, but mayweathers resume at 147+ is just as good if not better.

35 year old oscar ( champ ). Zab Judah ( champ ). Carlos Baldomir (undefeated in 10 years champ ). Hatton ( undefeated former 147 champ ). Sharmbe Mitchell ( tune up yes, former champ? yes ) better than gomez ever was? yes )

So lets compare, and I'll do this as accurately as possible. They both have 5 fights at 147 to my knowlege.

Oscar = Mosley
Zab against Floyd > Zab against Cotto
Baldomir > Urkel
Mitchell > Gomez
Hatton > Quintana

I dont think you can argue with that ^^^. Sorry guys. Floyds resume at 147 is better than cotto's.