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Roy Jones Jr
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Joe Calzaghe
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06-19-2008, 05:50 AM
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#21 (permalink)
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Jones will cause Calzaghe problems with his speed and accuracy but at this stage in his career he can't deal with a guy like Calzaghe, his workrate as usual will be the factor in the fight and i see him winning a UD. I would love for Jones to pull it off though.
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06-19-2008, 05:51 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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i think the showing hopkins did, is not an indicator of this fight. i also know that roy will be a hell of a lot better than in the tito, since his bicep was torn.
i feel hopkins is a master of fighting south paws, and also he is a master of controlling a fight. i don't think he could have fought any better. i mean a knock down and pretty much 50/50 fight. as for calzaghe, i feel he can deal with roy's style more. roy has super fast hands, but he doesn't sustain it. he seems to only throw very few punches at a time now. he can get the first 1 or two punches really fast as always, but i feel if he punches any more, he will get tired and slower. this is where i feel roy can lose it, since calzaghe is always a fighter to not tire at the 12th, while others do. this is where he gets the rounds. then again i also have to think of their ages, will calzaghe workrate be too much for his aging body? is roy just not going to be able to throw as much? i don't think roy will hit calz with his left, but the right hand is what i would be concerned with. the southpaw style and high right hand will block the lefts. but the right is soemthing to worry about since calz does like to stand in a funny faceward stance. someone of roy's ability will make note and bang in some rights.
if roy is goign to win, then i really don't think it will be a ud. it will have to be a ko.
if calzaghe wins, i am pretty sure it will be close, but he will edge it with his workrate. the reason why, is because hopkins isn't there to be hit, you gotta basically break through a brick wall, but roy, well he always has his hands low, and his reflexes won't cope with calzaghe's speed.
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06-19-2008, 06:51 AM
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I also don't think Roy is in any way deserving of this fight. I can see Calzaghe's logic in taking the fight for a couple of reasons. 1. $$$$ 2. This is a fight that should of happened years ago only for Roy not to give Joe the opportunity. Even though they're now past their primes it's still got the potential to be a good fight.
Calzaghe will counter Roys left hook leads all day long, his speed and footwork is too good even at his age. I see Calzaghe's workrate being the defining factor in this fight. I'll be competitive in the first 5 rounds then I think Calzaghe will take the advantage and go on to dominate down the stretch. I think it'll be 116-112/117-111 Calzaghe.
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06-19-2008, 07:16 AM
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#24 (permalink)
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This is a bad matchup for Roy. Stamina will be the key in this fight and Roy has none these days. Calzaghe on the other hand is Mr stamina and will throw a lot of punches for 3 minutes of every round. B-Hop was able to cut down Joe's workrate though because he was hitting him with precision shots and Joe was weary of his right hands. Roy still has the ability to stop Joe's flurries with well timed counters and this is why it will be a crowd pleasing fight. But Roy can't fight at a high pace for 12 rounds anymore. I'll be rooting for him but Joe will get the UD or SD. Roy will make him look amateurish though.
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06-19-2008, 08:14 AM
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#25 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen
i think the showing hopkins did, is not an indicator of this fight. i also know that roy will be a hell of a lot better than in the tito, since his bicep was torn.
i feel hopkins is a master of fighting south paws, and also he is a master of controlling a fight. i don't think he could have fought any better. i mean a knock down and pretty much 50/50 fight. as for calzaghe, i feel he can deal with roy's style more. roy has super fast hands, but he doesn't sustain it. he seems to only throw very few punches at a time now. he can get the first 1 or two punches really fast as always, but i feel if he punches any more, he will get tired and slower. this is where i feel roy can lose it, since calzaghe is always a fighter to not tire at the 12th, while others do. this is where he gets the rounds. then again i also have to think of their ages, will calzaghe workrate be too much for his aging body? is roy just not going to be able to throw as much? i don't think roy will hit calz with his left, but the right hand is what i would be concerned with. the southpaw style and high right hand will block the lefts. but the right is soemthing to worry about since calz does like to stand in a funny faceward stance. someone of roy's ability will make note and bang in some rights.
if roy is goign to win, then i really don't think it will be a ud. it will have to be a ko.
if calzaghe wins, i am pretty sure it will be close, but he will edge it with his workrate. the reason why, is because hopkins isn't there to be hit, you gotta basically break through a brick wall, but roy, well he always has his hands low, and his reflexes won't cope with calzaghe's speed.
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That's what most people don't realize is that RJ had a bicep injury and still threw 400+ shots and never appeared tired. I definitely think he'd throw more than B-Hop and since his punches would be more powerful than anyone he has ever faced...I think that's the what makes this fight unpredictable. Like what most people said, I think that RJ will come in at almost prime form since a motivated RJ is one of the most dangerous fighters in the sport.
I think RJ's stamina at this point is underrated, George Foreman once said that RJ can fight forever at his pace in the middle of the ring by feinting and throwing right hand leads then combinations to the body and countering from the outside.
RJ's advantages: Skill, experience, hand speed (getting punches off), strength
Cal's advantages: Ring mobility, hand speed (putting punches together), stamina, punching output, boxing mileage
And what I mean by boxing mileage is that the sport of boxing hasn't taken its toll on Cal yet. Roy's reign in various weight classes have now evaporated his legs for the most part but hopefully he can temporarily TKO father time for one last fight and show a fight for the ages and defeat Cal...
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06-19-2008, 08:56 AM
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i'm with cj rock. jones should have fought calzaghe a few years ago. he would have had a much better chance.
i hope joe destroys him but i see a reasonably close UD. would much prefer to see joe fight pavlik.
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06-19-2008, 09:05 AM
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LOL.
Roy Jones would have zero chance against Calzaghe he is beyond shot.
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06-19-2008, 11:53 AM
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#28 (permalink)
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Roy Jones Jr 6 50.00%
Hearts over heads.
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06-19-2008, 12:35 PM
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#29 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarShane
You think you could make a positive post or are you just an all around hater of everything? You remind me of someone else on this board.
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Surely you dont mean me do you Shane ? LOL
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06-19-2008, 12:40 PM
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#30 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarShane
We all know your personal opinion on Roy. What is your opinion on this fight?
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No way it should be happening Shane, Jones has done NOTHING to deserve a shot at Calzaghe. You know this guy will not be buying into another Jones con
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