That's what most people don't realize is that RJ had a bicep injury and still threw 400+ shots and never appeared tired. I definitely think he'd throw more than B-Hop and since his punches would be more powerful than anyone he has ever faced...I think that's the what makes this fight unpredictable. Like what most people said, I think that RJ will come in at almost prime form since a motivated RJ is one of the most dangerous fighters in the sport.
I think RJ's stamina at this point is underrated, George Foreman once said that RJ can fight forever at his pace in the middle of the ring by feinting and throwing right hand leads then combinations to the body and countering from the outside.
RJ's advantages: Skill, experience, hand speed (getting punches off), strength
Cal's advantages: Ring mobility, hand speed (putting punches together), stamina, punching output, boxing mileage
And what I mean by boxing mileage is that the sport of boxing hasn't taken its toll on Cal yet. Roy's reign in various weight classes have now evaporated his legs for the most part but hopefully he can temporarily TKO father time for one last fight and show a fight for the ages and defeat Cal...
tbh with you, know one has as good stamina as calzaghe. he is getting old, maybe 37 i think when he fights roy, but he is just a phenominal athlete. at this level you might need soemthing extra to win vs top opposition. this is my key to joe winning.
roy will definately throw more than calzaghe, but sometimes that may be to calz advantage if he can counter. if roy can fight a hopkins style fight, he might actually win. he is faster than hopkins. if you throw less but they are precise, then you are unlikely to get tired and especially in the arms, and will continue to be on target.
if roy comes to stay in the middle, then it may be a long night for him to be effective.
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Dawson
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If anyone has a chance or even a punchers chance to beat Calzaghe its RJJ. People say he’s way past his prime and I guess I’m the only one that doesn’t think so. Sure he’s not the say Jones as 10 years ago but he is still a hell of a fighter and if you think he’s gone soft just wait.
tbh with you, know one has as good stamina as calzaghe.
What about Pacquiao and Mayweather? And possibly Pavlik.
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he is getting old, maybe 37 i think when he fights roy, but he is just a phenominal athlete. at this level you might need soemthing extra to win vs top opposition. this is my key to joe winning.
roy will definately throw more than calzaghe,
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but sometimes that may be to calz advantage if he can counter.
If Joe tries to counter Roy and be smart he'll definitely lose.
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if roy can fight a hopkins style fight, he might actually win. he is faster than hopkins. if you throw less but they are precise, then you are unlikely to get tired and especially in the arms, and will continue to be on target.
if roy comes to stay in the middle, then it may be a long night for him to be effective.
I disagree 100%. Roy will be a lot more effective in the center of the ring with his superior handspeed and skills. If stays on the ropes then Joe will win the fight with his flurries.
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What about Pacquiao and Mayweather? And possibly Pavlik.
What?
If Joe tries to counter Roy and be smart he'll definitely lose.
I disagree 100%. Roy will be a lot more effective in the center of the ring with his superior handspeed and skills. If stays on the ropes then Joe will win the fight with his flurries.
i don't think pavlik has as much stamina as joe. well he did show a lot vs jermaine, but joe has proven it time after time. i can't say i have seen all of pavlik's fights, but yeah from the jermaine fight he was great. he does have a lot of workrate aswell.
joe is a very good counter puncher. he goes in and out, he will add some flurries, he will jab away. if joe chases roy, then imo roy can still hit joe slightly faster and move away. joe's best weapon is waiting for someone to punch but also mixing it with combo's. i know if you give roy too much respect then he fights better, but i can't see him beating roy in the same way he fought hopkins.
i feel 100% that joe has enough hand speed and throws enough to match roy. roy is a dominant boxer, but calzaghe thrives on people coming at him. if roy tries to control the fight from the centre, he will be chasing calzaghe all day long. calzaghe isn't a clinton woods who would get destroyed. calzaghe has good footwork and will make people miss if they chase him. that is why i honetly do not feel roy will win if he takes centre stage.
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My Top 10 P4P List.
Pacman
Calzaghe
JMM
Hopkins
Vasquez
Paul Williams
Margarito
R Maqrquez
Dawson
J Lopez
Names to look out for: Haye Pavlik Abraham Arreola Taylor Kessler Hatton Mayweather Darchiyan Kirkland Cotto and Guzman
What about Pacquiao and Mayweather? And possibly Pavlik.
What?
If Joe tries to counter Roy and be smart he'll definitely lose.
I disagree 100%. Roy will be a lot more effective in the center of the ring with his superior handspeed and skills. If stays on the ropes then Joe will win the fight with his flurries.
whoops at the bit roy will definately trow more than calzaghe. i meant hopkins lol
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My Top 10 P4P List.
Pacman
Calzaghe
JMM
Hopkins
Vasquez
Paul Williams
Margarito
R Maqrquez
Dawson
J Lopez
Names to look out for: Haye Pavlik Abraham Arreola Taylor Kessler Hatton Mayweather Darchiyan Kirkland Cotto and Guzman