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07-03-2008, 09:55 AM
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One Of The Faces
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Originally Posted by Brutus
I think Rahman won the first fight and i think he will win the second one. Toney was never that good, i admit he was a decent fighter in his prime but he wont make any waves in todays hw division, the guy wont train hes lazy and fat!! And thats the reason he never won and never will winn a hw title.
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What the hell kind of fight fan are you?! Does the sweet science mean anything to you? There haven't been many better practitioners of it than this guy over the last thirty years.
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07-03-2008, 05:16 PM
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Rahman is a BUM, if Toney doesn't detroy him, he is not in good condition
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07-03-2008, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by no dice nate
What the hell kind of fight fan are you?! Does the sweet science mean anything to you? There haven't been many better practitioners of it than this guy over the last thirty years.
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The only guys Toney has ever outboxed has been washed up or not that good. He got outboxed for 10 rounds against Nunn until he caught him, Jones humiliated him. He got beat by Rahman imo altho it was a draw, he got beat by c class fighters like Montell Griffin, he got beat by Samuel Peter and he has been caught using steroids number of times. And the excuse his fans use is that he didnt train and was overweight!!! well what kinda excuse is that i cant rate a fighter for what he couldave been but for what he did and he never did anything great. Beating not that good fighters in dominating fashion tells me nothing. James Toney couldave been amazing but his poor work ethic and his poor choice of food to eat made him not that good in my eyes.
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07-03-2008, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SugarShane
Good post. I agree completely. If Haye fights Toney and is able to box consistently for 12 I'll be sold on him. That is one of my few question marks regarding his time at heavy.
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good post Shane and Ulster, its something im looking to see aswell. he wont always be able to blast heavies out of there and will be interesting to see how he copes in a 12 rounder. 
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07-03-2008, 06:46 PM
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I hope he aint on steroids again then.
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07-03-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TysonJones
I hope he aint on steroids again then.
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its alright to take steroids in boxing appartantly, or is that just if your RJJ 
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07-03-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brutus
The only guys Toney has ever outboxed has been washed up or not that good. He got outboxed for 10 rounds against Nunn until he caught him, Jones humiliated him. He got beat by Rahman imo altho it was a draw, he got beat by c class fighters like Montell Griffin, he got beat by Samuel Peter and he has been caught using steroids number of times. And the excuse his fans use is that he didnt train and was overweight!!! well what kinda excuse is that i cant rate a fighter for what he couldave been but for what he did and he never did anything great. Beating not that good fighters in dominating fashion tells me nothing. James Toney couldave been amazing but his poor work ethic and his poor choice of food to eat made him not that good in my eyes.
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James Toney is a great boxer, he's one of the few doctors of the sweet science. And his work ethic was very bad near the end of his career when he was using steroids. And beating Sam Peter and a prime RJ are hard things to do, so losing to them is not the end of the world. He's a future HOF member for sure.
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07-03-2008, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by goldenbhoy
good post Shane and Ulster, its something im looking to see aswell. he wont always be able to blast heavies out of there and will be interesting to see how he copes in a 12 rounder. |
If it is Toney he's facing chances are it's going the distance. I think it'll be pretty much one way traffic depending on his stamina. If Haye gets the job done early then there's even more reason to get excited about him.
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07-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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Haye would have a lot of problems dealing with the Toney that just moved up from cruiserweight to beat Holyfield.
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07-05-2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by no dice nate
Haye would have a lot of problems dealing with the Toney that just moved up from cruiserweight to beat Holyfield.
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I agree. But Toney isn't that good anymore
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