[SugarShane]

Originally Posted by Vitali Rules

Here we go more Haye talk c'mon he is to small. The guy is moving up and he is noe Holyfield he will get smashed by either Klitschko. So I love all of the Vitali non-believers so when it happens and he is champ you can all eat crow. The comments are just quite childish of course but some are down right crazy. Like vitali would have had trouble with peter at anytime no don't think so. Peter showed his true colors agaisnt McCline he can be hurt by a much less powerful fighter than Vitali and of course less skilled fighter than Vitali. Peter fought Vlad good but Vitali and Vlad are totally different fighters Vlad fights way more with the jab Vitali wants to always take your head off which shows in his all time best KO percentage in the HW division. Peter has a strong punch but not as powerful as Lennox or Sanders and Vitali has a huge reach advantage. So go back to your boring Haye talk and the who do you think Mayweather will fight next and I will let you have your jokes and snickers but come Oct Vitali will be a champ and you will all will know then that Vitali is the best and The Three Time Heavyweight Champion of the World. Last Ring Champ and Next Ring Champ.

Horrid post. You call us boring huh? Look at you homeboy. All you talk about is a guy who hasn't seen the inside of a boxing ring in YEARS!!! David Haye is exciting, and he doesn't pull out of fights due to ingrown hairs. Don't even act like you know what we talk about here. All you do is log on and search "Vitali" to get your fix.

[Vitali Rules]

Originally Posted by SugarShane

Horrid post. You call us boring huh? Look at you homeboy. All you talk about is a guy who hasn't seen the inside of a boxing ring in YEARS!!! David Haye is exciting, and he doesn't pull out of fights due to ingrown hairs. Don't even act like you know what we talk about here. All you do is log on and search "Vitali" to get your fix.

Hey Sugar question is will Haye lose his speed adding 20 lbs. Will he be able to take a heavyweight punch and last question will he be able to punish a HW like he has at the lighter weight. alot of Questions. I say he will lose some speed get hurt by HW punches and his power will lessen in the HW division. I know my boxing I just happen to be a die hard Vitali fan and can't wait for his return. Dude I have know Idea who you are our what you know but I have been in the ring and don't just have to talk about it I lived it. I know what you talk about the same ole stuff. I'm sorry not a big fan of the smaller fighters grew up with Heavys and have always enjoyed watching them more. Here is the truth until there is a dominant American HW champion boxing will keep taking a back seat to the UFC. I know there are big fights but no one has had the fans on the edge of their seats like Ali and Tyson. True fans will watch any fight and I usually will but what boxing needs is a dominant HW champ and it will bring back the greatness of te sport as a whole. I like Vlad but he will never be dominant because of his chin that is a given. Let me tell you the reason I'm a huge Vitali fan I followed his career for years finally got to see him fight in person at MSG agaisnt Kirk Johnson. I know Johnson came in overweight but Vitali dominated him and the fans went crazy for Vitali something I hadn't seen in person since the 80's Tyson. Then I went to see him fight Sanders for the belt and again the same feeling that we were seeing something special and wanted to see more. I know the problems he has had with training camps and getting hurt believe me every one has p*ssed me off. I guess down deep I want to see greatness and if he can stay healthy I believe he can be domiant again. So go ahead have your jokes i'm fine with that but if you haven't been in the ring you really don't know what damage your body takes over several fights. All I have to say is Go Vitali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NFFC]

Originally Posted by Vitali Rules

Hey Sugar question is will Haye lose his speed adding 20 lbs. Will he be able to take a heavyweight punch and last question will he be able to punish a HW like he has at the lighter weight. alot of Questions. I say he will lose some speed get hurt by HW punches and his power will lessen in the HW division. I know my boxing I just happen to be a die hard Vitali fan and can't wait for his return. Dude I have know Idea who you are our what you know but I have been in the ring and don't just have to talk about it I lived it. I know what you talk about the same ole stuff. I'm sorry not a big fan of the smaller fighters grew up with Heavys and have always enjoyed watching them more. Here is the truth until there is a dominant American HW champion boxing will keep taking a back seat to the UFC. I know there are big fights but no one has had the fans on the edge of their seats like Ali and Tyson. True fans will watch any fight and I usually will but what boxing needs is a dominant HW champ and it will bring back the greatness of te sport as a whole. I like Vlad but he will never be dominant because of his chin that is a given. Let me tell you the reason I'm a huge Vitali fan I followed his career for years finally got to see him fight in person at MSG agaisnt Kirk Johnson. I know Johnson came in overweight but Vitali dominated him and the fans went crazy for Vitali something I hadn't seen in person since the 80's Tyson. Then I went to see him fight Sanders for the belt and again the same feeling that we were seeing something special and wanted to see more. I know the problems he has had with training camps and getting hurt believe me every one has p*ssed me off. I guess down deep I want to see greatness and if he can stay healthy I believe he can be domiant again. So go ahead have your jokes i'm fine with that but if you haven't been in the ring you really don't know what damage your body takes over several fights. All I have to say is Go Vitali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think Haye will lose too much speed or power. I don't like him that much but he will be the best thing to happen to the Heavyweight division for a long time

[SugarShane]

Originally Posted by Vitali Rules

Hey Sugar question is will Haye lose his speed adding 20 lbs. Will he be able to take a heavyweight punch and last question will he be able to punish a HW like he has at the lighter weight. alot of Questions. I say he will lose some speed get hurt by HW punches and his power will lessen in the HW division. I know my boxing I just happen to be a die hard Vitali fan and can't wait for his return. Dude I have know Idea who you are our what you know but I have been in the ring and don't just have to talk about it I lived it. I know what you talk about the same ole stuff. I'm sorry not a big fan of the smaller fighters grew up with Heavys and have always enjoyed watching them more. Here is the truth until there is a dominant American HW champion boxing will keep taking a back seat to the UFC. I know there are big fights but no one has had the fans on the edge of their seats like Ali and Tyson. True fans will watch any fight and I usually will but what boxing needs is a dominant HW champ and it will bring back the greatness of te sport as a whole. I like Vlad but he will never be dominant because of his chin that is a given. Let me tell you the reason I'm a huge Vitali fan I followed his career for years finally got to see him fight in person at MSG agaisnt Kirk Johnson. I know Johnson came in overweight but Vitali dominated him and the fans went crazy for Vitali something I hadn't seen in person since the 80's Tyson. Then I went to see him fight Sanders for the belt and again the same feeling that we were seeing something special and wanted to see more. I know the problems he has had with training camps and getting hurt believe me every one has p*ssed me off. I guess down deep I want to see greatness and if he can stay healthy I believe he can be domiant again. So go ahead have your jokes i'm fine with that but if you haven't been in the ring you really don't know what damage your body takes over several fights. All I have to say is Go Vitali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I used to practically live in the gym. I never fought professionally though. Why would Haye lose any speed? He isn't really having to add weight. He will be fighting MUCH more comfortably. I think he will be faster, stronger, and much more powerful at heavy. I can respect your love for Vitali. There's nothing wrong with that. You are missing out if you don't follow the other divisions. You follow the worst division. The overweight division's greatest hope is David Haye.

[TysonJones]

Originally Posted by Vitali Rules

Hey Sugar question is will Haye lose his speed adding 20 lbs. Will he be able to take a heavyweight punch and last question will he be able to punish a HW like he has at the lighter weight. alot of Questions. I say he will lose some speed get hurt by HW punches and his power will lessen in the HW division. I know my boxing I just happen to be a die hard Vitali fan and can't wait for his return. Dude I have know Idea who you are our what you know but I have been in the ring and don't just have to talk about it I lived it. I know what you talk about the same ole stuff. I'm sorry not a big fan of the smaller fighters grew up with Heavys and have always enjoyed watching them more. Here is the truth until there is a dominant American HW champion boxing will keep taking a back seat to the UFC. I know there are big fights but no one has had the fans on the edge of their seats like Ali and Tyson. True fans will watch any fight and I usually will but what boxing needs is a dominant HW champ and it will bring back the greatness of te sport as a whole. I like Vlad but he will never be dominant because of his chin that is a given. Let me tell you the reason I'm a huge Vitali fan I followed his career for years finally got to see him fight in person at MSG agaisnt Kirk Johnson. I know Johnson came in overweight but Vitali dominated him and the fans went crazy for Vitali something I hadn't seen in person since the 80's Tyson. Then I went to see him fight Sanders for the belt and again the same feeling that we were seeing something special and wanted to see more. I know the problems he has had with training camps and getting hurt believe me every one has p*ssed me off. I guess down deep I want to see greatness and if he can stay healthy I believe he can be domiant again. So go ahead have your jokes i'm fine with that but if you haven't been in the ring you really don't know what damage your body takes over several fights. All I have to say is Go Vitali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so not reading any of that BS. Next thread.

[Vitali Rules]

Originally Posted by SugarShane

I used to practically live in the gym. I never fought professionally though. Why would Haye lose any speed? He isn't really having to add weight. He will be fighting MUCH more comfortably. I think he will be faster, stronger, and much more powerful at heavy. I can respect your love for Vitali. There's nothing wrong with that. You are missing out if you don't follow the other divisions. You follow the worst division. The overweight division's greatest hope is David Haye.

The reason he will slow down he isn't going to be able to fight at 215 or less in the Heavys. His heaviest in the ring is around 215 he will have to be bigger to fight the super Heavys no question if not they will tear him apart. To fight in the Heavys he will have to be around 230 that is alot of weight and the body changers when you add 15 to 20 lbs.

[Vitali Rules]

Originally Posted by TysonJones

I'm so not reading any of that BS. Next thread.

Oh I'm hurt you are not going to read my thread. Who are you to talk about BS threads the reason you have so many posts because they are one sentence long. TysonJones is a true Vitali Hater.

[Unseen]

Originally Posted by Vitali Rules

The reason he will slow down he isn't going to be able to fight at 215 or less in the Heavys. His heaviest in the ring is around 215 he will have to be bigger to fight the super Heavys no question if not they will tear him apart. To fight in the Heavys he will have to be around 2230 that is alot of weight and the body changers when you add 15 to 20 lbs.

he told wlad in his face he is 220. wlad does not look that much bigger to haye. haye said he had to starve himself for 17 weeks to make 200 at the mormeck fight.

he was also 220 when he made his pro heavvyweight debut. he looked good vs that bum, but then again it was his first heavyweight fight so i ghuess he didn't wanna fight anyone too good. he did ko the guy in round 1. i think it might be on you tube. so to say haye is too small is like saying tyson is too short to be a heavy.

ps. i dunno where you get your facts about haye from.

i am concerned for hayes chin and stamina. that's all. not his size

YouTube - Haye and Klitschko head-to-head

[bill1234]

Originally Posted by Vitali Rules

The reason he will slow down he isn't going to be able to fight at 215 or less in the Heavys. His heaviest in the ring is around 215 he will have to be bigger to fight the super Heavys no question if not they will tear him apart. To fight in the Heavys he will have to be around 230 that is alot of weight and the body changers when you add 15 to 20 lbs.

You don't have to go up in weight to compete against the superheavys. Look what the 200 pounders like Dempsey and Louis did to a bunch a giants. Dempsey destroyed Willard who was 6'6 and 245lbs. Louis destroyed Buddy Baer who was 6'6 1/2 and 240lbs of all muscle, Primo Carnera who was 6'5 and 260lbs of all muscle, Abe Simon who was 6'4 and 255lbs. Sometimes being bigger is a disadvantage.

[ulster86]

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