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View Poll Results: Who Wins? How?

Toney UD, MD, or SD 5 31.25%
Toney KO or TKO 9 56.25%
Harrison UD, MD, or SD 1 6.25%
Harrison KO or TKO 1 6.25%
Draw 0 0%
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:23 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Prior to the NC against Rahman, JT was fat and out of shape and only relied on skill to even contend against the heavies. Now you actually hear me rep him NOW instead of in the past is because he's in shape. He's a very dangerous fighter when he's in shape...but I guess you'll see in the near future...
That's true, Toney looked in better shape against Rahman than he has in a while. Age is cathcing up with him though, and he'll lose to the likes of Haye, Wlad and probably Vitali. I'd give him a good shot against the rest if he's in good condition going into the fight.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Remember when the top three heavyweight prospects were Samuel Peter, Calvin Brock and Audley Harrison? Toney by KO or an easy decision.....
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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That's true, Toney looked in better shape against Rahman than he has in a while. Age is cathcing up with him though, and he'll lose to the likes of Haye, Wlad and probably Vitali. I'd give him a good shot against the rest if he's in good condition going into the fight.
Yea I see Toney having some problems witht the langy guys of the division but I think he has a good chance against anyone. Haye has no chin...but if Haye utilizes a jab while staying away from the inside...I can see Haye cruising to a UD. But if he decides to mix it up with JT on the inside...I think its a wrap for Haye...a clean invisible right hand from JT will put him on the canvas.

I actually like Wlad...but if he puts on a performance like he did in his last fight then JT will have a great shot against him. Wlad sadly to say is the king of the division right now. But then again...that's not saying much...
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Toney knocks this guy out
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Any half decent HW knocks out Audley.

And my opinion of Haye has completely changed as i was running through his career, watching all his fights the other day. Haye can't take a HW punch, his chin will be exposed when he fights a HW with good power.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:35 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Yea I see Toney having some problems witht the langy guys of the division but I think he has a good chance against anyone. Haye has no chin...but if Haye utilizes a jab while staying away from the inside...I can see Haye cruising to a UD. But if he decides to mix it up with JT on the inside...I think its a wrap for Haye...a clean invisible right hand from JT will put him on the canvas.

I actually like Wlad...but if he puts on a performance like he did in his last fight then JT will have a great shot against him. Wlad sadly to say is the king of the division right now. But then again...that's not saying much...
The HW division is an embarrassment to boxing. I agree, there's always a danger of Haye being knocked out by a big punch so he can't afford to go to sleep (no pun intended). I'm hoping he makes an impact because the division is a graveyard the way things stand. After Toney knocks Fraudley TFO I'd love to see him fight Haye.
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The thing is...there is no one in the HW division more skilled than JT...so that only leaves winning by KO and no one is KOing JT...I think JT has one more opportunity to rise to the top in a weak HW division...
I really doubt that JT is going to get his way with Wladmir Klitsko.
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:16 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I agree...Haye would get exposed against JT. JT won't get KO'ed...which only means that Haye MUST outbox toney...and we all know that's not happening over 12 rounds...

that gif is killing me. Great gif ....Ali would tear that up too LOL
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Harrison is another "name" to go on Toney's record in the twilight of his career. Rahman escaped because he pulled a bitch move and I agree the gif is hot, Slapzaghe is a handpicking bitch.
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The thing is...there is no one in the HW division more skilled than JT...so that only leaves winning by KO and no one is KOing JT...I think JT has one more opportunity to rise to the top in a weak HW division...
I think Haye is more skilled than Toney, but Toney is a better fighter in my opinion.
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Any half decent HW knocks out Audley.

And my opinion of Haye has completely changed as i was running through his career, watching all his fights the other day. Haye can't take a HW punch, his chin will be exposed when he fights a HW with good power.
Man I hope you're wrong. Haye is my only hope for the heavyweight division behind Areola, but he's fat. I'm hoping Deontay Wilder ends up being pretty good.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:42 AM   #29 (permalink)
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LMFAO I just read this from Mommysson.

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I dont think Audleys head has ever been fully in the pro game, that Gold medal ruined him IMO.

Id bet my life on it if he had only came away with the silver medal he'd have been HW champ of the world by now.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:49 AM   #30 (permalink)
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LOL I didnt know a silver medal compared to a gold medal improved someones chin. Sounds like something he'd say though.

I hope haye can take a punch now. If he can find a way to land first and get out of the way, he has a shot. I dont like arreola. He's an ugly fat slob, thats at least how I view him. I can't take a hw seriously who looks like that. I just can't help it.
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