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Old 11-12-2008, 09:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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175 is as high as Williams will ever go. And there will be tough obstacles in every division he tries to climb through.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:06 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I think this thread is stupid what are we suppose to assume alcaeda has'nt blown up the planet by then ....
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I think this thread is stupid what are we suppose to assume alcaeda has'nt blown up the planet by then ....
Haha yea them or Al Qaeda.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I give Marquez the best shot at beating him in the division but I prefer Lopez in that fight and against the rest of the guys at 122.
Both Marquez & Vazquez stop JML at the moment IMO. Lopez is damn good but he needs to fight some world class opposition before going in with genuine P4P fighters like Marquez/Vazquez. He'll be a P4P fighter in 5 years if he isn't rushed into the ring with tthose guys IMO.

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I don't think Marquez or Calzaghe have a good chance at staying on P4P list. Marquez has become more offensive and has gotten hit more in the last couple of years which has made hime more exciting, but will take years off his P4P level ring life. Calzaghe's style relies too much on stamina and reflexes to be able to hold on for 5 years.
I agree. Calzaghe hasn't got much left at all IMO, he has zero power these days and his speed/stamina/reflexes will get worse every fight now. JMM only has another 18 months or so left at the top as well IMO.

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You might have to add Yuriorkis Gamboa to that list. Nice list though
I would add Gamboa too. Chad Dawson, Tavaris Cloud, Andre Dirrell, Joe Greene, Alfredo Angulo, James Kirkland, Paul Williams, Andre Berto, Tim Bradley, Jorge Linares, Yuriorkis Gamboa & JuanMa Lopez are all good shouts, but so much can change in 5 years. Abner Mares is getting beat soon IMO, especially if he fights Penalosa.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:32 AM   #25 (permalink)
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What ever happened to Pavlik's name? He loses one match the a future hall of famer and hes out of the picture?
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What ever happened to Pavlik's name? He loses one match the a future hall of famer and hes out of the picture?
Your right Matty, Pavlik's name crossed my mind but in 5 years im not sure he'll still be at the top. Most people are underrating him at the moment and alot seem to favour AA to beat him, if that fight comes off i think Kelly takes a close one.
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Your right Matty, Pavlik's name crossed my mind but in 5 years im not sure he'll still be at the top. Most people are underrating him at the moment and alot seem to favour AA to beat him, if that fight comes off i think Kelly takes a close one.
Yea the only reason I put him on this list is he is still pretty young and still building up his skill. I think in 5 years he will have it down. I agree he takes a close one over AA.
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Old 11-13-2008, 10:25 AM   #28 (permalink)
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What ever happened to Pavlik's name? He loses one match the a future hall of famer and hes out of the picture?
I haven't written him off at all, I just think that he will no longer be fighting in five year's time. I think he fights 8-10 more times and calls it a day.
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I don't think PW will ever go past 168. Any heavier than that and he loses his natural advantages, his height and his reach. Frankly, I don't want to see him go any higher than 160. I still hope he goes back down to 147 and cleans house.
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I think it's impossible to say because five years ago, very few new for example Kelly Pavlik and look now, he just shot onto the scene all in the space of about a year. I've got hopes that we'll see about three or four new talents coming in five years that will just shake up boxing.
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