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Old 02-28-2012, 12:17 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Stop the Linsanity insanity

By Lynn Hoppes


This Asian-American sports fan (and sports editor) has heard enough about Jeremy Lin.



Stop it.

I don't care how well Jeremy Lin is playing for the New York Knicks.

Sorry, folks.

So what if we're both Asian-Americans?

Turn on the television. Read websites and magazines. Listen to the talking heads. He's everywhere.

He's the NBA's version of the NFL's Tim Tebow, his league's global savior.

Stop it.


He's a fabulous story. But one Asian-American sports fan wonders if the political correctness about Jeremy Lin is becoming overbearing.

Please don't automatically assume that every Asian-American is rooting for him to become a star and help the Knicks make the playoffs.

And don't automatically assume that every Asian-American is offended by the jokes and comments about Lin.

Over the weekend, Ben & Jerry's apologized for including fortune cookies in its "Taste the Lin-Sanity" frozen yogurt sold in Boston.

"We offer a heartfelt apology if anyone was offended by our handmade Lin-Sanity flavor," Ben & Jerry's said in a statement.

Was the frozen yogurt really that offensive? The company didn't do it as a slight to Lin, but to honor him.

Stop it.

I was born in Vietnam to a Chinese woman and a U.S. military police officer and have lived most of my life in the United States.

I don't know how to use chopsticks. I don't know any Chinese words. I can't tell the difference between Korean, Chinese or Japanese -- when it comes to the spoken word, the written word or physical appearance.

Gaffes have been made in the media on the subject of Lin, and journalistic organizations from the Poynter Institute to the Asian American Journalists Association to the Associated Press Sports Editors have weighed in.

I applaud them for making their views known, but don't tell me how I should feel on the subject. And don't try to make me feel guilty if I'm not offended by the words.

Stop it.

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Jeyhoun Allebaugh/NBAE/Getty ImagesChances are, Lin didn't set out to be a spokesperson for anyone.

Guilt by the media and NBA management likely plays a part because we feel ashamed we didn't notice this star-in-the-making. That's why we use these phrases in so many stories:

"Lin was cut by two NBA teams … "

That still means he actually made two NBA teams. How many people in the United States can say that?

"Lin was stuck on the end of the bench for the Knicks … "

Maybe that means he wasn't playing well and he now has the confidence to drive the lane and shoot the ball from 3-point range?

"Lin praises Jesus … "

And that makes him different than the millions of others who do?

Stop it.

Listen, I'm not saying the Jeremy Lin story isn't a good one. I'm happy he's doing what he loves. But the dude just wants to play basketball.

He isn't looking to be a role model. He isn't looking to speak for a generation.

Stop making generalizations about Asian-Americans, that all of us are running outside to play basketball now, or that we're collecting every Lin item we can find.

The same thoughts came about when Tiger Woods -- who is a combination of Asian, African-American, Native American and Dutch -- hit the golf scene and the media instantly raced out to see whether the golf world had changed.

Let this Lin story play itself out.

Stop it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I laughed when I read columnist Jason Whitlock's tweet about Lin.

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Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesCan't we just let him play, and stop making generalizations about Asian-Americans?

I get how some people might be offended, but I'm not allowed to laugh at someone trying to make a joke? Ever see Daniel Tosh's show?

Boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. is getting crushed by media and other athletes for saying that Lin is getting all this praise because he's Asian. People, like UFC president Dana White, are calling Mayweather racist. Really?

I may not agree with everything Mayweather has said, but can't someone have an opinion and express it without persecution?

A mobile editor for ESPN.com was fired for using an inappropriate phrase in a headline about a Knicks' loss recently. An ESPN TV anchor was suspended for saying the same phrase on the air during an interview.

I totally understand the reason for the punishment my company handed down, but is it wrong for me to believe there was no malice on their part?


We're taking this political correctness to new heights with the Jeremy Lin phenomenon.

Stop it.


The Jeremy Lin phenomenon hasn't affected this Asian-American sports fan - ESPN
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Old 02-28-2012, 02:16 PM   #92 (permalink)
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stephen a smith argues many of my points i've been referencing. the vid loses audio in the final 30 seconds not to mention they cut out the best part of the debate.

it went on for at least a few more minutes
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By Lynn Hoppes


This Asian-American sports fan (and sports editor) has heard enough about Jeremy Lin.



Stop it.

I don't care how well Jeremy Lin is playing for the New York Knicks.

Sorry, folks.

So what if we're both Asian-Americans?

Turn on the television. Read websites and magazines. Listen to the talking heads. He's everywhere.

He's the NBA's version of the NFL's Tim Tebow, his league's global savior.

Stop it.


He's a fabulous story. But one Asian-American sports fan wonders if the political correctness about Jeremy Lin is becoming overbearing.

Please don't automatically assume that every Asian-American is rooting for him to become a star and help the Knicks make the playoffs.

And don't automatically assume that every Asian-American is offended by the jokes and comments about Lin.

Over the weekend, Ben & Jerry's apologized for including fortune cookies in its "Taste the Lin-Sanity" frozen yogurt sold in Boston.

"We offer a heartfelt apology if anyone was offended by our handmade Lin-Sanity flavor," Ben & Jerry's said in a statement.

Was the frozen yogurt really that offensive? The company didn't do it as a slight to Lin, but to honor him.

Stop it.

I was born in Vietnam to a Chinese woman and a U.S. military police officer and have lived most of my life in the United States.

I don't know how to use chopsticks. I don't know any Chinese words. I can't tell the difference between Korean, Chinese or Japanese -- when it comes to the spoken word, the written word or physical appearance.

Gaffes have been made in the media on the subject of Lin, and journalistic organizations from the Poynter Institute to the Asian American Journalists Association to the Associated Press Sports Editors have weighed in.

I applaud them for making their views known, but don't tell me how I should feel on the subject. And don't try to make me feel guilty if I'm not offended by the words.

Stop it.

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Jeyhoun Allebaugh/NBAE/Getty ImagesChances are, Lin didn't set out to be a spokesperson for anyone.

Guilt by the media and NBA management likely plays a part because we feel ashamed we didn't notice this star-in-the-making. That's why we use these phrases in so many stories:

"Lin was cut by two NBA teams "

That still means he actually made two NBA teams. How many people in the United States can say that?

"Lin was stuck on the end of the bench for the Knicks "

Maybe that means he wasn't playing well and he now has the confidence to drive the lane and shoot the ball from 3-point range?

"Lin praises Jesus "

And that makes him different than the millions of others who do?

Stop it.

Listen, I'm not saying the Jeremy Lin story isn't a good one. I'm happy he's doing what he loves. But the dude just wants to play basketball.

He isn't looking to be a role model. He isn't looking to speak for a generation.

Stop making generalizations about Asian-Americans, that all of us are running outside to play basketball now, or that we're collecting every Lin item we can find.

The same thoughts came about when Tiger Woods -- who is a combination of Asian, African-American, Native American and Dutch -- hit the golf scene and the media instantly raced out to see whether the golf world had changed.

Let this Lin story play itself out.

Stop it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I laughed when I read columnist Jason Whitlock's tweet about Lin.

[+] Enlarge Jeremy Lin
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesCan't we just let him play, and stop making generalizations about Asian-Americans?

I get how some people might be offended, but I'm not allowed to laugh at someone trying to make a joke? Ever see Daniel Tosh's show?

Boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. is getting crushed by media and other athletes for saying that Lin is getting all this praise because he's Asian. People, like UFC president Dana White, are calling Mayweather racist. Really?

I may not agree with everything Mayweather has said, but can't someone have an opinion and express it without persecution?

A mobile editor for ESPN.com was fired for using an inappropriate phrase in a headline about a Knicks' loss recently. An ESPN TV anchor was suspended for saying the same phrase on the air during an interview.

I totally understand the reason for the punishment my company handed down, but is it wrong for me to believe there was no malice on their part?


We're taking this political correctness to new heights with the Jeremy Lin phenomenon.

Stop it.


The Jeremy Lin phenomenon hasn't affected this Asian-American sports fan - ESPN
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stephen a smith argues many of my points i've been referencing. the vid loses audio in the final 30 seconds not to mention they cut out the best part of the debate.

it went on for at least a few more minutes
I agree with you and the writer...society has gone soft on in this aspect of race culture. Putting fortune cookies in ice cream isn't racist or show signs of racial undertones if the point of it is to celebrate his uprising.

Still doesn't take away with what Mayweather said though...dude was stupid wrong. First and foremost he's popular because he came out of nowhere and he's leading a highly touted professional basketball team with highly touted superstar players. I can't say his ethnicity doesn't play a role at all because it plays a larger role than what people believe. But his skill and rise to stardom...being the underdog, that's his major rise to fame...not that he's asian.
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I agree with you and the writer...society has gone soft on in this aspect of race culture. Putting fortune cookies in ice cream isn't racist or show signs of racial undertones if the point of it is to celebrate his uprising.

Still doesn't take away with what Mayweather said though...dude was stupid wrong. First and foremost he's popular because he came out of nowhere and he's leading a highly touted professional basketball team with highly touted superstar players. I can't say his ethnicity doesn't play a role at all because it plays a larger role than what people believe. But his skill and rise to stardom...being the underdog, that's his major rise to fame...not that he's asian.
this is where we differ. floyd just worded it incorrectly causing people to take it the wrong way. if people read his whole statement they'd have a better understanding of what he was saying.

then again, this is floyd we're talking about. they'd roast him regardless
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this is where we differ. floyd just worded it incorrectly causing people to take it the wrong way. if people read his whole statement they'd have a better understanding of what he was saying.

then again, this is floyd we're talking about. they'd roast him regardless
Yea he could have definitely worded it better but he repeatedly said that he meant what he said. Then he's going to say that he was "supporting his race." Where did he support my race...the African American race. I see where he tried to smear Lin's play by bringing up his Asian ethnicity but smearing another man or race is a terrible way to defend your own. Mayweather is just ignorant man...nobody likes an uppity ignorant guy and that's why Pacquiao is such a likeable person and Mayweather isn't. You can speak your mind and still be liked but almost everything that flies out of Mayweather's mouth is on some ignorant ish.
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Lin 13 assists...1 TO and this is with being trapped most of the game. (My point with getting accustomed to the offense and not killing him with minutes)

Knicks score 120 points. 7 players in double figures. (My point being one of the deepest teams in the league)

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Lin 13 assists...1 TO and this is with being trapped most of the game. (My point with getting accustomed to the offense and not killing him with minutes)

Knicks score 120 points. 7 players in double figures. (My point being one of the deepest teams in the league)

Man I love being right
You've actually been proven wrong mutliple times, you just chose to ignore it. Again one game or a few good games does not make you right, see how he plays for an entire season. He's only played 22 games in a season shortened to 60 something games.

Some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing I guess.
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Case in point see how he does against ELITE teams:

Against Miami:

8 points, 8 turnovers, 1-11 shooting playing 34 minutes.

Against Boston:

2 points, 1 assist, 0-3 shooting.

Against Sacramento (Not an Elite team):

10 points 14 assists, 3-7 shooting in 30 minutes.

his averages over the last 10 games:

21.4 points: He's taking 163 shots and making 78 of them. That's a total 45%. That is not a spectacular percentage for someone who is supposed to be ELITE.

9.2 assists: that's very good.

a total of 79 turnovers in the last 10 games. that's not a good average.

I've already proven to you that multiple players have played better than Lin over a much longer duration and did not get the hype he got. The fact that you keep making up lies saying you were right about this is pathetic.
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