[Colzo]

What does Americans or anyone think of the Bush Family I have read that Prescott Bush had strong links to the Nazi party and at least helped to Fund them.
George H W Bush had links to the JFK assassination
And George Bush jr had dealings with the Bin Laden family!
Didnt Laura Bush kill a guy in 1963?

Obviously the truth about the Bushes links to these terrorist and murders will never be known due to coverups and the USA's belief that there government would never do such a thing but everyone has to admit George Bush jr was an idiot LOL

[Dr. Sweet Science]

Me personally, I dislike the man. He represented this nation poorly, did a terrible job as President, placed the biggest hole in our economy since The Great Depression, was the cause of thousands of soldiers dying due to his greed of oil...I could go on and on all the screw ups this man made. At the end of the day, he's easily one of the worst presidents EVER.

[carob]

I don't think the average American is caught up in conspiracy theories, or is even aware of half the gossip about various presidents. Nobody's taking seriously the crackpot who created a documentary claiming Obama's father is not really his father, and his mother posed for nudie pix, etc. etc.

Bill Clinton, if you want to get paranoid, was tied to various mumblings about death and corruption; Vince Foster, Whitewater, etc. etc. Most of these things never even came up during the actual elections.

Unfortunately and obviously, America elected Dubya twice, which was appalling. Technically the first election could've been, and maybe actually was, a win by Gore. How Kerry lost is beyond belief. Dubya was an incredible idiot who could barely speak, or comport himself with dignity (on Letterman's show, he wiped his glasses on the dress of Dave's assistant during a break).

George Sr., was considered nothing much, just tiresome. The JFK conspiracy, well, depends on who you think was behind it. CIA is the favorite. Some say Castro or Russia or the Mafia. Most of the minor players, including politicians who were part of the Warren Commission, simply didn't have a clue, and others who had suspicions figured, especially at the time, that it was better to just say Oswald did it, and leave it at that...not worth starting a war with Cuba or Russia over it...and it would be dangerous to point a finger at the CIA, I guess.

The fact that Dubya is not part of this election speaks volumes as to how Americans (and Republicans in particular) feel about him. His father apparently has the beginnings of Parkinson's Disease, so he's not been seen much lately.

[Colzo]

Originally Posted by carob

I don't think the average American is caught up in conspiracy theories, or is even aware of half the gossip about various presidents. Nobody's taking seriously the crackpot who created a documentary claiming Obama's father is not really his father, and his mother posed for nudie pix, etc. etc.

Bill Clinton, if you want to get paranoid, was tied to various mumblings about death and corruption; Vince Foster, Whitewater, etc. etc. Most of these things never even came up during the actual elections.

Unfortunately and obviously, America elected Dubya twice, which was appalling. Technically the first election could've been, and maybe actually was, a win by Gore. How Kerry lost is beyond belief. Dubya was an incredible idiot who could barely speak, or comport himself with dignity (on Letterman's show, he wiped his glasses on the dress of Dave's assistant during a break).

George Sr., was considered nothing much, just tiresome. The JFK conspiracy, well, depends on who you think was behind it. CIA is the favorite. Some say Castro or Russia or the Mafia. Most of the minor players, including politicians who were part of the Warren Commission, simply didn't have a clue, and others who had suspicions figured, especially at the time, that it was better to just say Oswald did it, and leave it at that...not worth starting a war with Cuba or Russia over it...and it would be dangerous to point a finger at the CIA, I guess.

The fact that Dubya is not part of this election speaks volumes as to how Americans (and Republicans in particular) feel about him. His father apparently has the beginnings of Parkinson's Disease, so he's not been seen much lately.

His grandads links to the Nazis isnt a conspiracy theory its a fact the bush involvement in the JFK murder is a conspiracy theory but wouldnt be surprised to be honest old Oswald gets the blame weather he was the real shooter or not peronally I think it was the CIA-Mafia that killed JFK the CIA had the Mafia working for them in Cuba trying to kill Castro and also the Mafia worked with the US gov during WW2 so the CIA asking them to kill a Kennedy isnt out of the question.
Ive looked up lots of different sources and Laura Bush killed a man when she was a teen in a car "accident".
One things for sure the bushs do have lots of like to terrorist or there relations

[Dr. Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by Colzo

His grandads links to the Nazis isnt a conspiracy theory its a fact the bush involvement in the JFK murder is a conspiracy theory but wouldnt be surprised to be honest old Oswald gets the blame weather he was the real shooter or not peronally I think it was the CIA-Mafia that killed JFK the CIA had the Mafia working for them in Cuba trying to kill Castro and also the Mafia worked with the US gov during WW2 so the CIA asking them to kill a Kennedy isnt out of the question.
Ive looked up lots of different sources and Laura Bush killed a man when she was a teen in a car "accident".
One things for sure the bushs do have lots of like to terrorist or there relations

Not to mention during 9/11, right before the airplanes crashed into the towers, the NYPD and NYFD received phone calls about hearing bombs going off within the towers. Not to mention the destruction of the Pentagon was said to be consistent with a bomb explosion and not an airplane. No matter how anyone looks at this terrible event...the blood of many Americans lies on his hands. One of the best days of my life was seeing him leave the White House

[carob]

Originally Posted by Dr. Sweet Science

Not to mention during 9/11, right before the airplanes crashed into the towers, the NYPD and NYFD received phone calls about hearing bombs going off within the towers.

Anyone can make phone calls. They probably received calls like that every day.

I hadn't heard about Grand-Bush and the Nazis, but back then, a lot of people thought Adolph and his pals weren't so bad. Good for Germany, and all that. Neville Chamberlain-types. Roy Orbison wore an Iron Cross. Kiss (two Jews in the band) had the SS symbol. Walter Brennan called Jews "Hebes" during interviews. I doubt JFK's dad was a fan of Jews. Lotta ignorance then (and quite a bit now).

George H.W. Bush was a mediocre guy. I doubt he was active in knowing about and hiding a conspiracy in JFK's death, any more than Gerald Ford was. Laura Bush and a car accident...obviously nobody's around to provide any facts. Are you saying she deliberately killed somebody? Or that she was in an accident and it was covered up because she was drunk or underage? As she was nothing more than a bush (ie, Bush holster) nobody much cares about her. Unlike Hillary, who was brighter than Bill to begin with, and did manage to become a Senator and a Secretary of State, Laura's just another Tammy Wynette, standing by her dunce.

Dubya was an embarrassment for the United States...it would be hard to name a president who was worse.

[Colzo]

Originally Posted by carob

Anyone can make phone calls. They probably received calls like that every day.

I hadn't heard about Grand-Bush and the Nazis, but back then, a lot of people thought Adolph and his pals weren't so bad. Good for Germany, and all that. Neville Chamberlain-types. Roy Orbison wore an Iron Cross. Kiss (two Jews in the band) had the SS symbol. Walter Brennan called Jews "Hebes" during interviews. I doubt JFK's dad was a fan of Jews. Lotta ignorance then (and quite a bit now).

George H.W. Bush was a mediocre guy. I doubt he was active in knowing about and hiding a conspiracy in JFK's death, any more than Gerald Ford was. Laura Bush and a car accident...obviously nobody's around to provide any facts. Are you saying she deliberately killed somebody? Or that she was in an accident and it was covered up because she was drunk or underage? As she was nothing more than a bush (ie, Bush holster) nobody much cares about her. Unlike Hillary, who was brighter than Bill to begin with, and did manage to become a Senator and a Secretary of State, Laura's just another Tammy Wynette, standing by her dunce.

Dubya was an embarrassment for the United States...it would be hard to name a president who was worse.

Prescott Bush refused to remove his money from Nazi banks and it was ceased by the FBI even when the USA was in the work he openly supported Nazis.

The CIA was working against JFK its a long story and the Bush connection to it is in this doc JFK II - The Bush Connection (2003) - YouTube It basicly says Bush killing JFK is like a small time Mafia memeber getting "made" give that a watch its interesting explains it all.

[carob]

Originally Posted by Colzo

Prescott Bush refused to remove his money from Nazi banks....

The CIA was working against JFK its a long story and the Bush connection to it is in this doc JFK II - The Bush Connection (2003) - YouTube It basicly says Bush killing JFK is like a small time Mafia memeber getting "made" give that a watch its interesting explains it all.

Well, it's the guys who pretend they aren't Nazis that you have to worry about. If Prescott was a cranky old nut who loved George Lincoln Rockwell and thought Hitler's ideas were good ones...at least he said so. And it's quite obvious that almost nobody in America cared about him...and that Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Kerry all figured it was a non-issue when they campaigned against the Bush bunch.

As for documentaries, especially JFK documentaries, it's so easy to manipulate film clips, misinterpret remarks, come up with theories that are all wrong. There are plenty of legit American and British documentaries out there that offer re-enactments, scientific analysis and a lot of credibility in stating the better known and most popular points of view on this...none of them bothering much with George Bush or Gerald Ford.

It's unfortunate that the JFK assassination was one of many events that are full of coincidences and ineptitude, but you can find all kinds of conspiracy theories on the Lincoln assassination as well, and there are many examples of botched autopsies and screwy police work and peculiar circumstances in quite a few deaths, from Marilyn Monroe to George Reeves to Martin Luther King Jr.

Sometimes the only way "conspiracy" doesn't become an obsession is if the perp finally confesses and is believed (for example, Hustler publisher Larry Flynt was not gunned down as part of a conspiracy against him, it was one lone nut who got enraged over an interracial set of pix in the magazine).

There are newspapers and magazines that have made a lot of money off deliberate hoaxes, and I've seen a lot of this up close. The publisher or the editor just says, "Oh, we're giving people some entertainment..." and laugh all the way to the bank.

[Colzo]

Originally Posted by carob

Well, it's the guys who pretend they aren't Nazis that you have to worry about. If Prescott was a cranky old nut who loved George Lincoln Rockwell and thought Hitler's ideas were good ones...at least he said so. And it's quite obvious that almost nobody in America cared about him...and that Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Kerry all figured it was a non-issue when they campaigned against the Bush bunch.

As for documentaries, especially JFK documentaries, it's so easy to manipulate film clips, misinterpret remarks, come up with theories that are all wrong. There are plenty of legit American and British documentaries out there that offer re-enactments, scientific analysis and a lot of credibility in stating the better known and most popular points of view on this...none of them bothering much with George Bush or Gerald Ford.

It's unfortunate that the JFK assassination was one of many events that are full of coincidences and ineptitude, but you can find all kinds of conspiracy theories on the Lincoln assassination as well, and there are many examples of botched autopsies and screwy police work and peculiar circumstances in quite a few deaths, from Marilyn Monroe to George Reeves to Martin Luther King Jr.

Sometimes the only way "conspiracy" doesn't become an obsession is if the perp finally confesses and is believed (for example, Hustler publisher Larry Flynt was not gunned down as part of a conspiracy against him, it was one lone nut who got enraged over an interracial set of pix in the magazine).

There are newspapers and magazines that have made a lot of money off deliberate hoaxes, and I've seen a lot of this up close. The publisher or the editor just says, "Oh, we're giving people some entertainment..." and laugh all the way to the bank.

You obviously didn't watch the documentry In the link

[Dr. Sweet Science]

Originally Posted by carob

Anyone can make phone calls. They probably received calls like that every day.

And do the NY Fire Dept hear explosions roaring down the elevator shaft everyday as well? As many architects stated, one air plane wasn't supposed to take down those towers...bot to mention that those towers fell demolition style. People in the building heard bombs go off, the Fire Dept heard bombs go off, NYPD heard the bombs go off...I'm pretty sure that those phone calls were valid.