JCC

There's come to be recently here a lot of talk ... about Rocky Marciano having fought Joe Louis.

So I've come to have interest now in talking more about this fight.

I have the tape of this fight.

Stick around because later ... I'm going to call that fight as I saw it. And if you like .. if you're seen this fight? You can call it as you saw it too.

Joe Louis was an old guy when he fought Rocky .. but Louis was no push over ... he was still dangerous.

I say it was the strategy that Rocky used that won that fight ... and I'm going to want to talk about that.

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hhascup

JC, your one of the very few boxing people that has stated that. I too have that bout on film. I also have the bouts that Louis fought in the late 1930's and early 1940's, and their is a big difference between that Louis and the Louis that fought Rocky.

In Louis's last 9 bouts he only had 3 knockouts. He just wasn't the same as he once was.

Dr. Wisdom

Of Course he wasn't the same... He was a 102 years old

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The Auctioneer

According to the Eddie Murphy movie "coming to America" Joe Louis was 80 some years old when he fought Marciano.
"There they go again......"

JCC

The Rocky Marciano critics sure like to exaggerate in making excuses to lower Rocky Marciano's statute don't they? (smiling)


Going into the fight with Rocky Marciano in 1951 ... Joe Louis was 37 years old. Louis had been champion for 12 years before vacating the crown to go into temporary retirement in 1949, and had defended his title an unprecented 72 times. Louis had been defeated only twice in 72 professional fights, a knockout by Schmeling in their first encounter and a 15 round decison lost to Ezzard Charles, Louis won 8 fights without a loss, 4 of then by KOs going into his fight with Marciano in 1951 .. Louis was an older fighter and past his prime ... but he was still dangerous and no pushover like the Rocky Marciano critics would try to make us believe.

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JCC

I welcome the Rocky Marciano critics to call the Marciano-Louis fight ... as they saw it .. if they've seen the fight?

I'm going to take time to watch the fight again on tape just to refresh my memory, and later I'm going to call this fight as I saw it.

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hhascup

Even the BIGGEST critics of Louis and the BIGGEST supporters of Rocky, would admit that the Louis that fought Rocky, was not the same fighter he once was. He came back because he owed the Goverment millions of dollars.

I also have the hold tape of he bout, so what does that prove. Even Rocky admitted that Louis was way past his prime.

JCC

Hey, Henry. This above quote was taken from a previous post of mine above. Maybe you just didn't see it.

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bill1234

Louis was past his prime, but he still had his power. He just didn't have as said in Rocky 3, he didn't have "the eye of the tiger" he just went in there to pay back money. But he got his butt handed to him during the process. Marciano admitted, and everyone else knows, that Louis was past his prime. BUt he was still winning, and some of theose wins were by KO. Louis wouldn't have beat Marciano in his prime anyways. Louis would have put up a bigger fight but that is about it.

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JCC

Bill ... I've never really given much thought about Marciano to have fought Louis when Louis was in prime .. but since you said that ... I believe he would have beaten Louis even if he had been in his prime when they fought and most likely Marciano would have also gotten the knock out. Rocky was a rare breed in the heavyweight division .. never any one like him. And what's so amazing about it with all the natural disadvantages he had in being a small man for being a heavyweight ... not only in weight .. but with shorter arms and reach ... and on top that too old in getting started out as a pro ... none of that made any difference.

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