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Old 09-16-2006, 11:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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As I have stated a million times before, Klitchko should go out moving and jabing in the oppening rounds, that should win him some points along with the rounds. About mid way threw the fight Wlad should start focusing on using his big right. His right should land easier do to Brock being a southpaw. Brock should focus on countering and working the body. Wlad obviously has a questionable jaw, so shouldn't slug it out with Brock.
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:16 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I hope they assign a good ref.
To stop Klitschko from holding his left hand out.
That would help Brock allot and make it a fair fight.
It's a signature Stewart's move, Lewis did exactly the same thing. By the way, so did Byrd. I don't see anything illegal about it, to be honest.
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It's a signature Stewart's move, Lewis did exactly the same thing. By the way, so did Byrd. I don't see anything illegal about it, to be honest.

Look it up in the rules IT IS ILLEGAL to hold your hand out.
That would be the first thing I would do in the pre-fight dressing room instructions with the ref.
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Look it up in the rules IT IS ILLEGAL to hold your hand out.
That would be the first thing I would do in the pre-fight dressing room instructions with the ref.
If refs were deducting points for an every illegal punch/move out there, they would be doing more than the fighters in the ring. Peter just punched the hell out of the back of Toney's head and the ref didn't say a damn thing about it. Hatton would be DQd by now and so would be Hollyfield. Actually, I would say that a good number of current and former champs would be. Lewis did exactly the same think - would you DQd him also?
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If refs were deducting points for an every illegal punch/move out there, they would be doing more than the fighters in the ring. Peter just punched the hell out of the back of Toney's head and the ref didn't say a damn thing about it. Hatton would be DQd by now and so would be Hollyfield. Actually, I would say that a good number of current and former champs would be. Lewis did exactly the same think - would you DQd him also?
Exactly Holmes held his hand out too, would you DQ him too? Its just for sizing your oppenent up, and keeping them away. They could have easily ducked under the out held arm. So I am 100% on boxing2005's side.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Exactly Holmes held his hand out too, would you DQ him too? Its just for sizing your oppenent up, and keeping them away. They could have easily ducked under the out held arm. So I am 100% on boxing2005's side.

YES
YES
And YES if they dont stop the Fouls.
That’s what the jab is for!
I do my best not to foul; I have not fouled in 5 sparing sessions.
If I spar with some one that holds their hand out you believe I WILL FOUL THEM BACK AND IT WONT BE PRETTY…

and stop being such extremist all of you.
*first-they get a warning
*second- they get another warning
*third-they get a final warning
and after 3 warnings then the points start to come off.
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If refs were deducting points for an every illegal punch/move out there, they would be doing more than the fighters in the ring. Peter just punched the hell out of the back of Toney's head and the ref didn't say a damn thing about it. Hatton would be DQd by now and so would be Hollyfield. Actually, I would say that a good number of current and former champs would be. Lewis did exactly the same think - would you DQd him also?
Tony turns his head allot so it has to be looked at very closely as it happens, to see if it’s intentional or caused by Tony turning his head.

Quickly of the top of my head

1-Evander
2-B-hop (I am a fan of his)
Much of their success comes from their dirty and illegal tactics and if they whir penalized accordingly they might not be or have the status they have now.

For example B-hop charges in with his head and head bunts allot and gets away with it.
This gives him a big advantage because it forces the other fighter to move back and lift his head to avoid being cut by a head bunt and what’s b-hops favorite bunch as he charges? His over hand right. And it always lands.
If a ref forces b-hop to stop doing this he would be a much deferent fighter.
And possibly have deferent results in some of his fights.

If klistko is forced to throw the jab instead of leaving it out their the way he does he would use much more energy and may be he would have a deferent win record especially in the decisions that he has gotten.
And the same goes for Lenox.
Hold your hand out and when I get in they will get a nasty upper cut to the Ball’s.
The disadvantage to me is that they would get away with holding their hand out and I would get the point deduction. Mostly because of the incompetent refs.
That don’t know the rules them self’s.
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Tony turns his head allot so it has to be looked at very closely as it happens, to see if it’s intentional or caused by Tony turning his head.

Quickly of the top of my head

1-Evander
2-B-hop (I am a fan of his)
Much of their success comes from their dirty and illegal tactics and if they whir penalized accordingly they might not be or have the status they have now.

For example B-hop charges in with his head and head bunts allot and gets away with it.
This gives him a big advantage because it forces the other fighter to move back and lift his head to avoid being cut by a head bunt and what’s b-hops favorite bunch as he charges? His over hand right. And it always lands.
If a ref forces b-hop to stop doing this he would be a much deferent fighter.
And possibly have deferent results in some of his fights.

If klistko is forced to throw the jab instead of leaving it out their the way he does he would use much more energy and may be he would have a deferent win record especially in the decisions that he has gotten.
And the same goes for Lenox.
Hold your hand out and when I get in they will get a nasty upper cut to the Ball’s.
The disadvantage to me is that they would get away with holding their hand out and I would get the point deduction. Mostly because of the incompetent refs.
That don’t know the rules them self’s.
Peter's signature move is the punch behind the head, in his last two fights against top 10 fighters he knocked Klitschko down twice with it and almost knocked Toney down once. Toney turns his head a lot but Klitschko does not, yet he still managed to do it. IMHO Peter should have had at least one point deducted in his fight vs. Klitschko and DQd vs. Toney.
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Peter's signature move is the punch behind the head, in his last two fights against top 10 fighters he knocked Klitschko down twice with it and almost knocked Toney down once. Toney turns his head a lot but Klitschko does not, yet he still managed to do it. IMHO Peter should have had at least one point deducted in his fight vs. Klitschko and DQd vs. Toney.
i am with you they foul DQ them. its that simple.

i guess you changed your mind about holding the hand out.
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I still haven't, Ali/Clay rabbit punched alot, held behind the head and did so much more. Tyson Rabbit punched, headbutted (not as much as Holyfield), and hit on break, but those two were never DQ'd. So I don't see whats so bad about holding an arm out.
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