"Give him a break since we do with all the other heavyweights"
Critique is what it is all about. It is certainly not about giving anyone "a break". I remember when we called Cassius Clay aka Mohammed Ali, "The Louisville Lip". Before he was really "The Greatest" NO ONE gave him a break. Most fight fans desparately wanted someone, anyone, to knock his block off! Ali made his breaks with his incredible speed, athletic ability, punching, boxing, dancing, generalship in the ring and overall style, to include shooting off his mouth anytime someone shoved a mic at him. If Ali would've been lacking in any of these attributes, no one would've thought nor cared about giving him "a break". Ali, if he'd faded early on, would've been just another forgotten upstart with a big mouth. Right now, Valuev, until he fights and beats some genuine contenders is just a BIG upstart.
Too many times we have been fooled by records like 44 and 0. Who were the 44 defeated opponents? Does anyone know them or give them credibility? I doubt it.
Adamek vs Briggs II was a great show. At the end both looked and knew that they'd been in a boxing match. At the end of the day, it is the gladiators of boxing that keep us coming back.
"( I personally dont mind, I kinda like watchin him)"
Well.........yeah! Valuev is fun to watch! I feel kinda guilty though. My Mom taught me not to stare at strange looking people. I will be the first to eat humble pie if Valuev ends up being a world beater heavy weight!
All one has to do is study history to notice that as each wave of immigrants came to the US shores, the boxers came out of the most surpressed groups. Every group had it's day, in terms of great boxers. Then, for the most part, the various ethnic groups raised themselves up, economically and the number of boxers coming out of that group dried up. Today, the same is taking place, but on more of a worldwide stage. Millions of people from what was the failed Soviet Union have not only gained more freedom, but are free to also show their talents to a world market and sell those talents to the highest bidder. It is obvious that the ex-Soviets are producing many great boxers. I do not believe that this trend has peaked. There is much more boxing talent within the ex-Soviet states than now meets the eye. Add to this the fact that big men are plentiful in that part of the world and the stage is set to bust the Heavy Weight class of boxing wide open.
"( I personally dont mind, I kinda like watchin him)"
Well.........yeah! Valuev is fun to watch! I feel kinda guilty though. My Mom taught me not to stare at strange looking people. I will be the first to eat humble pie if Valuev ends up being a world beater heavy weight!
All one has to do is study history to notice that as each wave of immigrants came to the US shores, the boxers came out of the most surpressed groups. Every group had it's day, in terms of great boxers. Then, for the most part, the various ethnic groups raised themselves up, economically and the number of boxers coming out of that group dried up. Today, the same is taking place, but on more of a worldwide stage. Millions of people from what was the failed Soviet Union have not only gained more freedom, but are free to also show their talents to a world market and sell those talents to the highest bidder. It is obvious that the ex-Soviets are producing many great boxers. I do not believe that this trend has peaked. There is much more boxing talent within the ex-Soviet states than now meets the eye. Add to this the fact that big men are plentiful in that part of the world and the stage is set to bust the Heavy Weight class of boxing wide open.
I never said he will be a world beater heavyweight
But can we talk about Toneys conditioning, or Klischkos stamina/chin. etc
"( I personally dont mind, I kinda like watchin him)"
Well.........yeah! Valuev is fun to watch! I feel kinda guilty though. My Mom taught me not to stare at strange looking people. I will be the first to eat humble pie if Valuev ends up being a world beater heavy weight!
All one has to do is study history to notice that as each wave of immigrants came to the US shores, the boxers came out of the most surpressed groups. Every group had it's day, in terms of great boxers. Then, for the most part, the various ethnic groups raised themselves up, economically and the number of boxers coming out of that group dried up. Today, the same is taking place, but on more of a worldwide stage. Millions of people from what was the failed Soviet Union have not only gained more freedom, but are free to also show their talents to a world market and sell those talents to the highest bidder. It is obvious that the ex-Soviets are producing many great boxers. I do not believe that this trend has peaked. There is much more boxing talent within the ex-Soviet states than now meets the eye. Add to this the fact that big men are plentiful in that part of the world and the stage is set to bust the Heavy Weight class of boxing wide open.
The fact is that all belts are held by Russian guys/
And Do not forget Sultan IBRAGIMOV is coming =)!
Ibragimov reminds me Tyson in his best time.
If Ibragimov is anywhere near as good as Tyson when Tyson was at his best, then bring him ON! For that great time when D'amato was alive and was Tyson's handler, Tyson was unbeatable. Even though the money spent seemed like a lot, just to see Tyson run across the ring at the opening bell and knock people out was worth it. He was a very exciting heavy weight. Tyson at top form may have given Ali trouble, as Tyson may have been able to run Ali down and simply crash into him. If Ibragimov demonstrates that sort of unbridled rage and lack of fear on the attack, then he should be fun to watch and maybe put some juice back into the heavy weight class.
If Ibragimov is anywhere near as good as Tyson when Tyson was at his best, then bring him ON! For that great time when D'amato was alive and was Tyson's handler, Tyson was unbeatable. Even though the money spent seemed like a lot, just to see Tyson run across the ring at the opening bell and knock people out was worth it. He was a very exciting heavy weight. Tyson at top form may have given Ali trouble, as Tyson may have been able to run Ali down and simply crash into him. If Ibragimov demonstrates that sort of unbridled rage and lack of fear on the attack, then he should be fun to watch and maybe put some juice back into the heavy weight class.
Well everyone has its one point. Lets watch and see ....
Klitchko fights on 4th of November and Lyachovich on 10th ... Gonna be good fights.
What , Ibragimov is not even as good as the Tyson that lost to Lennox lewis.
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Nikolay Valuev vs Monte Barrett.
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