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Old 06-19-2008, 07:55 AM   #21 (permalink)
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No major organization require a referee to issue warnings before deducting points. In the case of flagrant head butting, rabbit punching, low blows, biting, or eye gouging I would say deducting points should be an automatic penalty, and continued fouling should result in a DQ. These things are in now way like the typical warning from a ref about hitting on the belt or holding too much. Especially awful behavior can result in instant disqualification. Everyone knows the rules before getting in the ring.
Like I said before, no body said that boxing was a clean sport. And I know the refs aren't required to give warnings, but most of the good refs give warnings in championship bouts because they know most of the points will count in a close fight. But the fight shouldn't even have gone that far, the fight should've been stopped and Miranda should've won by TKO.
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Like I said before, no body said that boxing was a clean sport. And I know the refs aren't required to give warnings, but most of the good refs give warnings in championship bouts because they know most of the points will count in a close fight. But the fight shouldn't even have gone that far, the fight should've been stopped and Miranda should've won by TKO.
No, a good referee issues warnings, point deductions, or disqualification based on the severity of the transgression. Everyone knows the rules. The reason for the Ref even being there is to enforce the rules so as to protect both fighters.

Should Mike Tyson have gotten a mere warning for biting Holyfield's ear off? If all Miranda had gotten for a head butt like that was a warning, then a whole different group of people would be screaming about incompetent or corrupt refereeing. And you know what? They would be right to do it.

As for the assertion that stopping the fight would have led to a Miranda win, that is bogus on the face of it. If the fight had been stopped because of an accidental head butt, this would be true. Because the ref had already cited and deducted points, we know it would not have been called as accidental. It would have been a disqualification. DQ's don't go to the cards, ever. Why do I even need to explain that?

The bottom line is that the ref's taking points from Miranda was a very middling response. To have issued a warning would have been flaccid under the circumstances, but to have issued a DQ would have been extreme. IMO, if you think a warning should have been issued under those circumstances, you are either so biased against Abraham you can't see past your own nose, or have no concept of the rules and safety in the ring. 'Nuff said.
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I get the feeling that all these yahoos who were talking trash about Abraham, saying Miranda won the first fight and would easily win this one by knockout probably never even SAW the first fight
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I get the feeling that all these yahoos who were talking trash about Abraham, saying Miranda won the first fight and would easily win this one by knockout probably never even SAW the first fight
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I saw the fight 3 times actually and I'm sure that tysonjones saw the fight multiple time too....
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2 shots were low and the butt was blatant.
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Can Yall finally write Miranda off now?
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how do write off a guy with only 3 L's and 30 KO's
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