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One Of The Faces
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Philadelphia
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De La Hoya's resume doesn't impress me so much considering he loses all his biggest fights, which isn't to say he loses to all the biggest names. Two biggest names he ever fought were past their prime in Whitaker and Chavez. He lost to Tito for running the entire fight in what was pre-hyped as "fight of the millennium" (his most important fight ever). He lost his redemption fight after the Trinidad debacle to a man moving up 2 weight divisions to fight him in Mosley. Then he loses the rematch 3 years later and 1 more weight division north by UD. And he lost the fight on ALL scorecards for solely counter punching the entire night then fading down the stretch as Mosley DECISIVELY won the later rounds. You see, Oscar never learned the judges were sick of him letting the other guy force the fight and yet somehow always FADING down the stretch like he was the guy pushing the action.
You know, Oscar isn't even all that tall, yet who the hell did he ever beat that was taller than him? Sturm? Talk about robbed. Hopkins? We all saw what happened there. Tito? Ran the whole night and I'm glad he lost. Who the hell else was ever taller than him? Sure he could pull out a controversial close fight with the shorter and smaller Mosley, but given his history how do you really think he would have faired against 2 of the men who gave Mosley 4 of his losses. He fought all the other elite Welterweights of his day save Vernon Forrest. By the time Vernon finally got a title shot and won Oscar had decided no more 147 for him. So now he's Junior Middleweight. He wins a belt from a paper champion then picks up another belt from Vargas on roids. Roids work really well in most Sports, boxing aint one. This was maybe the only time I've ever been happy to see Oscar win a fight. So now Oscar's the "guy" at 154, does he want to validate it by fighting Winky Wright? Nah. He'd rather wait another year for Mosley's little ass to weight train and put on some absurd unnatural muscle to pass himself off as a Junior Middleweight. Oscar is now competing in the first and only rematch of his career, yet he fails once again. He wants his titles back and tries to get a trilogy with Mosley. But Oscar is up to his usual antics and actually wants to screw Mosley over on the cut for the THIRD time. Plain disrespectful. Mosley says to hell with Oscar and opts to fight the best the Junior Middleweight division had to offer. He loses, duh. So this is where Oscar fights Wright now for Junior Middleweight supremacy right? ...Right? Wrong, he moves up in weight AGAIN in one of the most absurd farces boxing has ever seen. He's given a gift of a Middleweight title by "defeating" Felix Sturm, now giving him the all time record for most weight division titles accumulated (tho back in the day some people managed 3 or 4 with no junior titles, since they didn't exist). So this is where he admits to himself that he's a farce of a champion and goes back down to Junior Middleweight to fight Winky right? ...Right? No, go figure. He manages to convince himself that he's now going to dethrone Bernard Hopkins himself. This is the biggest fight of his career since Trinidad. Aaaaaaand well, he gets knocked the **** out. The man doesn't win his biggest fights, what can I say. Risking getting knocked out by Hopkins looked better than losing a UD to Winky Wright I guess. Anyhow Oscar briefly retires and comes back @ 154 where he should have stayed all along. Wins a belt from that lunatic who's never been the same since Tito lit his ass up. Now somehow fighting the worst technical boxer in the division was the perfect tune up fight for the best technical boxer the sport has ever seen...what do you know he loses again in not only one of the biggest fights he's ever had but in the largest PPV gate boxing has ever seen. He loses all his big fights. Naturally after Mayweather beats him he relinquishes the belt immediately, he's not delusional like Oscar with hopes of beating someone like...o yea Vernon Forrest finally got that shoulder fixed and was back in boxing. And he's 154 now, and he's the #1 ranked in the world. Seeing how Oscar hasn't made 147 since 2001, I'm inclined to believe this is his weight division. Forrest is even older than Oscar, this is a fight boxing could have seen 8 years ago, why not make it happen. Could Vernon being 6 ft tall have anything to do with it? I think so.
You know, quite frankly Oscar has ducked his most dangerous competition ever since he was Junior Welterweight. Back then it was Tsyzu. Two gold medalists from the same Olympics. The fight had $$$s written all over it. Instead, beating JCC on his 99th fight seemed to be all he wanted to accomplish in that division. Next division, Welterweight. Two dangerous opponents here. He musters the courage to fight one since they could market the Mexico vs Puerto Rico thing so well. It was to be the fight of the "Millennium". His solution, run. A well executed performance indeed, he did after all make Tito look bad whilst doing it (most of the time), yet it was not something fans or judges wanted to see. The other most dangerous opponent of the division, Vernon. Didn't fight him then, won't fight him now. Next division, Junior Middleweight. Winky Wright was the man, and hell, Winky wasn't even taller. To this day he's the last known true champion of this division. Oscar never wanted any part of him. If it hadn't been for Shane Mosley, Winky sadly would have been another face boxing forgot. Next weight division, Middleweight. He does not duck the best!!! Unfortunately, he also gets knocked the **** out. Go figure.
I mean so really what legacy is this. Legacy of proving he could overcome non-physically opposing obstacles? Man was a paper champion and a B(+) fighter. Ask fighters who fought him like Whitaker, ask experts like Teddy Atlas. I mean honestly of his losses you can only really argue one, and it was the second fight with Mosley. But so what, you can argue more than 1 of his wins in Whitaker, Quartey, AND Sturm. So take away 1 loss and add 3, he's now at 7 which is roughly 1 out of 6 of all his fights. So what part of this is sounding like a legacy to anyone yet...? I'm not done tho.
Let's talk about Oscar's word and integrity now. This is a man who's gone on record stating he'd fight the winner of Cotto vs Margarito. This is a man who claims he loves and respects his Mexican people. This is the same man who predicted Cotto would win the fight, giving Margarito only a puncher's chance. This sound like a man who respects his people? So then Margarito "shocks the world" and wins. So we get to see Oscar vs Margarito now right? ...Right? Wrong again. Not only does Oscar want no part of his own weight division @ 154, but he wants no part of the one right below that @ 147. Instead Oscar is searching south...infact another 2 weight divisions below 147. Only problem is, Oscar couldn't make 135 if his life depended on it. So, Manny who has only fought at 135 ONCE in his life is now required to move up an additional 12 lbs on top of it to meet a most likely weight drained Oscar at 147. He could have fought Margarito at 154 and felt good if he liked, Margarito could have cared less. But nah, picking the brand new Lightweight sensation was clearly the epic fight boxing was in dire need to see.
I'm debating now even downloading this fight much less attending a live PPV viewing. All those who waste their money on this I feel sorry for. You have been hoodwinked, shamed, mocked, bamboozled, blindfolded, cheated, conned, deluded, duped, fooled, mislead, swindled and tricked. This fight is not what boxing needs. This fight is why MMA fans can talk sh1t, and do so justifiably.
DLH vs Pacman: Bad for Boxing.
Last edited by Obama : 09-25-2008 at 03:08 AM.
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Oscar Delahoya vs Manny Pacquiao - HBO PPV - 12/6/08
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