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Originally Posted by DRPUGILIST
 You said I was a joke when I say ATG, but you whine and complain when I challenge you on it  . I didn't day Moore wasn't good in that fight, I said how in the hell can you claim that he was past it when he fought Patterson when it was only a year and a half later while Moore was on an 11 fight win streak.
I'm going to stop putting forward my facts and opinion against your nuthugging misinformed delusional self. Anyone that read that discussion (other than you) knows that I owned you, whether you see it or not. If you wanted me to stop picking on you, you shouldve just told me  .
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I do not recall ever saying that you were a joke on your ATG's, but the reason that I got made is because you basically said that I had no right to call someone an ATG, when I had every right to do so.
BTW, You say that Marciano may have broken his forearm on one of the many explanations that you posted. You may very well be right, but I have never seen any evidence going against what Marciano did in the Savold fight. In fact he should be given more credentials for that fight because he had a bad flu, in which the doctors recommended that he did not fight Savold, but Marciano did not want to let the fans down and he went into the fight, and despite the flu, beat the living hell out of Lee Savold.
In the fight where Marciano fought Roland La Starza in the rematch (1953), he beat La Starza's arms so severly that La Starza had to immediatley go into surgery after the fight because most of the veins in his arms were disconnected. Marciano would punch you in any place he could (which would be a 70's Ali's arms) and he would at least do more than what he did to La Starza, because La Starza was a moving target, while Ali stayed still and let the opponent tire himself out while punching him in the arm. The fact of the matter with the 60s Ali was whether or not Marciano would have enough determination to catch Ali, which cannot truly be determined except by opinion, which mine is that Marciano definatley had more than enough determination, and would KO Ali in the later rounds.
Sorry about getting all mad at you, man. I guess I got carried away with what you said.