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View Poll Results: Who wins this Pound for Pound fight, Tyson or Hagler?

Mike Tyson KO 2 22.22%
Marvin Hagler KO 5 55.56%
Mike Tyson Decision 2 22.22%
Marvin Hagler Decision 0 0%
Draw 0 0%
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Hagler wouldn't be the pressure boxer in a fight like this....

Think Hagler Hamsho 1 mate.

Tyson would be the aggressor and Marvin would look to pick him apart.

Go get a youtube lolk on that fight if you can.

Hagler Vito Antuofermo 1 and 2 and even the wild Obelmejias are better guide as to how Hagler tended to deal with come forward strong fighters (Obel is tall and the least good example, but the wild aggression points the same way).

Hagler pressured the likes of Hearns and SRL because A) he didn't think they had 160 power and he knew he had more trouble boxing them/they could both box.


Think Hamsho 1
I agree

Hagler would either box or stand in front of Tyson, whatever, theres no way Tyson would come out on top. His chin was too good and he would give Tyson a worse beating than Holyfield did.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:47 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I agree

Hagler would either box or stand in front of Tyson, whatever, theres no way Tyson would come out on top. His chin was too good and he would give Tyson a worse beating than Holyfield did.


Yea he'd give a prime Tyson a worse beating than Holyfield gave to a Tyson who spent 5 years in prison and was on the comeback trail, beating no serious opposition before getting to Holyfield.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
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One of boxings biggest tragedies is that we never got to see Tyson for longer in his prime, his time in prison ruined him definitely.
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Tyson wins a clean UD. It's possible to hurt Hagler, and Hearns howed that. Inside fighting and toe-to-toe, Tyson would simply destroy Hearns. If Hearns tried to box Tyson, he has a shot of winning but he doesn't stand a chance toe to toe because Tyson had great lateral head movement, amazing speed and that one punch KO power (not that he'd ko Hagler). I'd pick Tyson via UD. Tyson seems to be extremely underrated by a lot of people on this forum. Regardless of what you think about him, he had the potential to be the greatest HW that ever lived but he just wasn't stable enough. He wasn't around the right people.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:17 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Tyson wins a clean UD. It's possible to hurt Hagler, and Hearns howed that. Inside fighting and toe-to-toe, Tyson would simply destroy Hearns.
You have added 2&2 and got 5.

Hagler went toe-to-toe with Hearns because Hearns was a welterweight and Hagler knew he had the edge in exchanges. He also knew that doing this took away Tommys best chance which clearly was to box from the outside.

Hagler had amazing ringsmarts snd would tailor each fight to the requirement.

Hagler did NOT go toe-to-toe with big middleweights generally and certainly not with big bulky bully fighters with good KO records or rushing fighters who liked to exchange.

Hagler boxed this type of fighter.

What on earth makes you think Tyson had the stamina or boxing skill set to out point Hagler?

If you pick Tyson at all you have to go with a KO (something never done).

Tyson had big problems with a fighter with a good jab and in his prime Hagler had one of the greatest and most underrated jabs of all time.

Hagler's jab was an unmerciful sharp damaging stick that repeatedly wounded his opponent and often cut them to pieces by the championship rounds. He also had speed in his prime and a great lead left and bludgeoning hooks and uppercuts and he put them together in bunches efficiently when he slowed you down.


You guys are MASSIVELY underestimating Hagler.

I am a huge Tyson fans, but styles make fights and Tyson would not beat Hagler....

Any of you guys watched all the fights of both boxers and watched a lot of them live??

I have. I watched all of Tyson back in the day and I watched the latter part of Hagler's career live and went back and viewed most all his fights prior and Hagler is simply better.

We can argue about where we place Mike but Hagler is a nailed on 1 or 2 at 160.....


If you guys are arguing this without having seen Hagler in his prime and watching most those fights (in their entirety not via youtube) then you don't know 50% of your subject matter.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
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If you guys are arguing this without having seen Hagler in his prime and watching most those fights (in their entirety not via youtube) then you don't know 50% of your subject matter.
You're not the only person with a shitload of fights.

If Hagler kept Tyson at bay with a jab he would win the fight. Doing so however against a prime Tyson is next to impossible to keep up. The fight will end up being fought on the inside, Tyson was too damn fast to be kept at bay.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:15 PM   #28 (permalink)
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You're not the only person with a shitload of fights.
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No need for the facepalm Obama. You will notice I said IF, IF was the operative word in my statement.

And my statement wasn't directed at you it was a general comment to many that are generally younger that might not have seen all the relevant fights.

If you have seen ALL the relevant fights and differ in your opinion.....genuinely good for you.

I mean good because it makes for a better thread yea?
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While giving it further thought, I now think Hagler will come out and box and wait for Mike to get tired or to slow up. When he sees Mike getting tired, I think he would start to put a little more pressure on, and when Mike is in trouble, he pounces on him like he did against Mugabe.
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