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Old 08-09-2008, 09:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Olympic Boxing Scoring

Alright most of you might not care about this, but it really bugs me. The Olympic committee changed the way the scoring was done after 1988 games, in which Roy Jones Jr. was the beneficiary of the worst screw job in Olympic Boxing history. The changed it to "computer scoring" to take away the human bias. Unfortunately it's simply electronic human scoring. Three judges have a button for each fighter. Every time a fighter lands a scoring blow to the torso or head the judge presses the button. If all three judges press the button within a single second then the fighter is awarded a point. There are three major problems with the system.

First it has not fixed the problem. The judges aren't pressing the buttons. The scores so far in the Olympics have been extremely low. There are two explanations. In the words of Teddy Atlas , "either it's incompetence or corruption." I watch a fight with a non-USA boxer that had won the world championships. He landed about seven clean shots in a row and was awarded no points.

The second problem is that is awards no extra points or weighted points for knockdowns or standing 8 counts. The reason, in my humble opinion, is to discriminate against fighters from the Americas. Notice I didn't say America. The style of Latin American fighters and fighters from the USA does not lend itself to just scoring points. This is a reason why many successful Olympic boxers have a hard time as pros. They are basically two different sports.

The third major problem with this system is that the equipment is expensive. So it is not used in most non-Olympic amateur bouts. It is not used in the Golden Gloves competition. It is obviously not used in club fights that amateurs take part in. This hurts fighters that don't come from countries without sports colleges. Russia, Cuba, and China are examples of countries who have these kinds of amateur programs. America obviously does not. This has to do with our lack of track education system, which I don't really want to get into. The problem is that successful American and Latin American boxers (excluding Cuba) have to retrain themselves how to fight this different style.
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Old 08-09-2008, 09:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Its crap. I agree. I've already seen some huge score disparities to where the guy that won, should of lost imo. Crappy system.
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Honestly I don't know why people care about the Olympics, especially when it comes to boxing, but that goes for most other sports as well. The whole thing seems like a huge waste of money and time.
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Its crap. I agree. I've already seen some huge score disparities to where the guy that won, should of lost imo. Crappy system.
I also agree that the system sucks, amateur scoring does as well.
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Honestly I don't know why people care about the Olympics, especially when it comes to boxing, but that goes for most other sports as well. The whole thing seems like a huge waste of money and time.
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The Olympics are nothing more than a nationalist ritual that encourages jingoism and corruption. For two weeks everybody gathers around to watch sports that they normally would never, ever care about, but they only do because it is one nation versus another.

That, and as far as boxing goes, the Olympic scoring system is a complete joke.
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The Olympics are nothing more than a nationalist ritual that encourages jingoism and corruption. For two weeks everybody gathers around to watch sports that they normally would never, ever care about, but they only do because it is one nation versus another.

That, and as far as boxing goes, the Olympic scoring system is a complete joke.
That I disagree with and is probably one of the most simple minded statements I've heard in a while.

Second bold, I agree, the scoring system is faulty but not a complete joke.
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C'mon man, watch the coverage. The games aren't about the sports, they're about nation versus nation, even race versus race, to some extent. The focus is mainly on medal counts.

It is not an accident that the Olympics were restarted in 1896, just when the imperial age was really kicking into high gear.
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C'mon man, watch the coverage. The games aren't about the sports, they're about nation versus nation, even race versus race, to some extent. The focus is mainly on medal counts.

It is not an accident that the Olympics were restarted in 1896, just when the imperial age was really kicking into high gear.
First off, I have trouble watching the Olympics without muting it. The announcers are just trying to make it politcal and laced with drama. It's much more entertaining without them, with the exception of Atlas.

Regarding the scoring - I was watching this this weekend. I didn't know how it worked until reading this thread. But, I kept seeing punches go unscored too. I was confused by that but now it makes sense.

I still sting from that time Roy Jones got robbed. We'll probably see more of that. Atlas is probably right, too.
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C'mon man, watch the coverage. The games aren't about the sports, they're about nation versus nation, even race versus race, to some extent. The focus is mainly on medal counts.

It is not an accident that the Olympics were restarted in 1896, just when the imperial age was really kicking into high gear.
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