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Old 01-21-2007, 11:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm a 5'9" stocky, but flabby and not so fit 21 year old with no hope... I'm just being real with myself!!!
Why your just a youngster!

You get out there and start doing something, and get fit and when you do your going to come to be of a different frame of mind, and you'll start thinking tough.

Your putting limitations on yourself.

Come on, your only 21 years old, you got to be kidding!

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Old 01-22-2007, 12:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'd love to box... and make a career out of it... and get really fit... maintain my strength... and develop a killer punch... a haymaker that can break a man's jaw in one decisive blow!!! BUT I'M TOO OLD... I'm 21... I wish I started YEARS AGO... I've always been obsessed with boxing... but never, ever got around to it! Floyd Patterson took it up at 14 and won a Gold Medal 3 years later at 17... and then turned Pro. Earnie Shavers was a big man and all muscle who took it up at 22 and turned Pro. at 24. I'm a 5'9" stocky, but flabby and not so fit 21yearold with no hope... I'm just being real with myself!!!
You are just young enough to start. Marciano got a very late start, so did Holmes. Look how great they are!!! All you need to do go to a local boxing gym, work out every day or as many days as you can, do road work, sit ups, and swiming is very good for you too. Ride your bike, basicaly get active along with your work out. If you are 5'9 and want to be a heavy weight, you better hit super super hard, or be the fastest boxer ever... But if you can livewith being a welter to light heavy, then go for it.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You are just young enough to start. Marciano got a very late start, so did Holmes. Look how great they are!!! All you need to do go to a local boxing gym, work out every day or as many days as you can, do road work, sit ups, and swiming is very good for you too. Ride your bike, basicaly get active along with your work out. If you are 5'9 and want to be a heavy weight, you better hit super super hard, or be the fastest boxer ever... But if you can livewith being a welter to light heavy, then go for it.
I know Holmes was 23.5 when he turned Pro but hadn't he been boxing as an Amateur for several years before that? Anyways... I'm going to try and get Superfit this year... I'd like to compete anywhere between Welterweight and Light Heavyweight... although I'm not exactly a huge fan of the Super Middleweight Division... but yeah... something like that! HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYBODY!
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Old 01-23-2007, 05:22 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I know Holmes was 23.5 when he turned Pro but hadn't he been boxing as an Amateur for several years before that?
The amatuer ranks is from where the pro's come from.


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Anyways... I'm going to try and get Superfit this year...
"Do it: don't talk about."

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I'd like to compete anywhere between Welterweight and Light Heavyweight... although I'm not exactly a huge fan of the Super Middleweight Division... but yeah... something like that!
You got a mind deal going?

If your SERIOUS, and its not just some mind deal you got going. Go take up boxing in a gym some where and enroll in the Golden Gloves or something like that and to train and to enter some tourament fights.

Then your going to quickly find out if you got what he takes.

If you find that you got what it takes. You need to spend at least 4-5 years in the amatuer ranks before even thinking about a professional career.

For there is much to know and learn, and that takes some years.

The weight division you want to be in is at what weight in more natural for you.

A well-conditioned fighter's body should look like a rasin not a grape.

A boxer's body should be all muscle and bone.

Keep that in mind as your exercise and train.

You want to have a functional body, your body is a tool.

Its the spirit and power of the mind that drives the fighter's body.

When you get out there and get yourself in shape it'll build your confidence.

Physical training strenghtens and toughens up the body, and that will also have an affect on your state of mind, you come to be of a different and better frame of mind.

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The amatuer ranks is from where the pro's come from.




"Do it: don't talk about."

ROCKY MARCIANO ...
give that advice many times to his brothers, friends and acquaintances in the boxing world.



You got a mind deal going?

If your SERIOUS, and its not just some mind deal you got going. Go take up boxing in a gym some where and enroll in the Golden Gloves or something like that and to train and to enter some tourament fights.

Then your going to quickly find out if you got what he takes.

If you find that you got what it takes. You need to spend at least 4-5 years in the amatuer ranks before even thinking about a professional career.

For there is much to know and learn, and that takes some years.

The weight division you want to be in is at what weight in more natural for you.

A well-conditioned fighter's body should look like a rasin not a grape.

A boxer's body should be all muscle and bone.

Keep that in mind as your exercise and train.

You want to have a functional body, your body is a tool.

Its the spirit and power of the mind that drives the fighter's body.

When you get out there and get yourself in shape it'll build your confidence.

Physical training strenghtens and toughens up the body, and that will also have an affect on your state of mind, you come to be of a different and better frame of mind.

JC
GODDAMN IT... I should just do it... NOW! No more of just punching that back in the gym all of the time... I've got to get some actual proper boxing lessons ASAP and get somewhere... NOW!!!
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GODDAMN IT... I should just do it... NOW! No more of just punching that back in the gym all of the time... I've got to get some actual proper boxing lessons ASAP and get somewhere... NOW!!!
Yes you do. Look in the phone book for a boxing gym, or look for a personal trainer...OR GET ACTIVE IN SOME SORT OF BOXING!!!
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Im 5'7, 152lbs, not fat, not ripped either, I can run the mile in 5 mins, 11 seconds. I can bench 160 lbs. I leg press 420. I play basketball football and box. used to play hockey but I sucked. On the field I play Starting middle Linebacker and second string Halfback. On the court I play Point gaurd Im average basketball player. I have a 23" vertical. Anyone else?

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I know Holmes was 23.5 when he turned Pro but hadn't he been boxing as an Amateur for several years before that? Anyways... I'm going to try and get Superfit this year... I'd like to compete anywhere between Welterweight and Light Heavyweight... although I'm not exactly a huge fan of the Super Middleweight Division... but yeah... something like that! HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYBODY!
No he hadn't. He was only boxing for like 2 years before that. Unless you consider street fighting, then that is a different story. 2 people aimed a shot gun at him before. The 1st time some guy got high, and took a shotgun. Then Larry went over to him and the guy aimed it at Larry and Larry took it from him and beat him up (Larry was in his mid-late teens when this happened). The other time a cop shoved a shotgun into his stomach. Some riot happend and Larry was driving down the road (he was in his late teens), and he saw his brother running away from something, so he got out and ran after him and a cop shoved a shotgun into Larry's stomach around a corner. Larry was poor growing up (his mother had to raise over 6 kids on wealfare). So what Larry and his brothers did for food was go to a bar, get on some boxing gloves, fight each other or other kids, and then they got all the food and drinks they wanted for free.
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Old 01-27-2007, 03:55 PM   #19 (permalink)
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No he hadn't. He was only boxing for like 2 years before that. Unless you consider street fighting, then that is a different story.
A lot of guys grew up in neighborhoods grew up in tough neighhoods as he apparently did, and not all were black who did either. I'm not black and I grew up in a tough neighhood too.

There were a lot of tough kids in the neighborhood I lived, and also at that boy's club I went to when I was a kid too.

There was all kinds of sports there a kid could be engaged with there besides boxing.

You could do a lot of stuff there shoot pool, play ping pong, go swimming, there was a lot of stuff to do there play basket ball as well as other things.

But boxing was all I was ever interested in.

As for street fights? Kids getting into fights there it was near a daily thing to happen there.

But few messed with the few kids there that were boxers. But some did! But those were easy fights for the kids who were boxers.

I never lost one of those kind of fights. Neither did any of of the other kids on the boxing team at the club either as for those kind of street fights.

In those days if a fight broke off in the pool hall at the club for example, which was often over something.

They could take those kids down stairs to the gym and put them in the ring and put the gloves on them and that's the way grudges would be settled.

They would announce "FIGHT IN THE GYM, FIGHT IN THE GYM." And it would always draw a big crowd into the gym of at the club.

It was a fun thing actually, and if it was a situation in which one of the kids was one of the boxers of the club which wasn't often. But when it was he often would TKO the other kid he got into a fight with in the first round no matter how much bigger the other kid may have been. It would always be a miss match.

That came to happen often enough at the club that few of the tough kids, and they all were tough wouldn't want to mess with those other kids at the club if they knew they were boxers.

I hear a lot of talk today about this so-called modern training for boxers today, about it being better. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT! The old school was better! We had tougher, more talented, well-conditioned fighters back in those days.

As I remember it those kids were so tough and well-conditioned, as for many of them they would have gotten into the ring and to have fought any body that wanted to fight no matter how big or tough they may have been.

If you could have have put the gloves on the DEVIL and put him in the ring, and they would have fought him too, myself included.

In the 1960s and especially in the 1970s martial arts came to be promoted more with a lot of hype with the growing popularity of all the kung fu movies which was a lot of silly and hyped up hollywood stuff.

A lot of kids started taking up marital arts, but I never saw those kids to ever be able to take a punch.

I always saw karate and all that martial arts stuff as having been over rated.

I'd always found the toughest kids to be boxers ... tough .. two fisted street fighters.

There is nothing out there that will toughen you in body, and toughen you in mind, and build self confidence and really teach you how to fight like boxing will do for you.

In my veiw, boxing is and always has been number # 1.

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A lot of guys grew up in neighborhoods grew up in tough neighhoods as he apparently did, and not all were black who did either. I'm not black and I grew up in a tough neighhood too.

There were a lot of tough kids in the neighborhood I lived, and also at that boy's club I went to when I was a kid too.

There was all kinds of sports there a kid could be engaged with there besides boxing.

You could do a lot of stuff there shoot pool, play ping pong, go swimming, there was a lot of stuff to do there play basket ball as well as other things.

But boxing was all I was ever interested.

As for street fights? Kids getting into fights there it was near a daily thing to happen there.

But few messed with the few kids there that were boxers. But some did! But those were easy fights for the kids who were boxers.

I never lost one of those kind of fights. Neither did any of of the other kids on the boxing team at the club either as for those kind of street fights.

In those days if a fight broke off in the pool hall at the club for example, which was often over something.

They could take those kids down stairs to the gym and put them in the ring and put the gloves on them and that's the way grudges would be settled.

They would announce "FIGHT IN THE GYM, FIGHT IN THE GYM." And it would always draw a big crowd into the gym of at the club.

It was a fun thing actually, and if it was a situation in which one of the kids was one of the boxers of the club which wasn't often. But when it was he often would TKO the other kid he got into a fight with in the first round no matter how much bigger the other kid may have been. It would always be a miss match.

That came to happen often enough at the club that few of the tough kids, and they all were tough wouldn't want to mess with those other kids at the club if they knew they were boxers.

I hear a lot of talk today about this so-called modern training for boxers today, about it being better. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT! The old school was better! We had tougher, more talented, well-conditioned fighters back in those days.

As I remember it those kids were so tough and well-conditioned, as for many of them they would have gotten into the ring and to have fought any body that wanted to fight no matter how big or tough they may have been.

If you could have have put the gloves on the DEVIL and put him in the ring, and they would have fought him too, myself included.

In the 1960s and especially in the 1970s martial arts came to be promoted more with a lot of hype with the growing popularity of all the kung fu movies which was a lot of silly and hyped up hollywood stuff.

A lot of kids started taking up marital arts, but I never saw those kids to ever be about to take a punch.

I always saw the karate and all that martial arts stuff as having been over rated.

I'd always found the toughest kids to be boxers ... tough .. two fisted street fighters.

There is nothing out there that will toughen you in body and toughen you in mind, and build self confidence and really teach you how to fight than boxing.

In my veiw, boxing is and always has been number # 1.

JCC
You and I think a like. At my shcool typicaly there is 1-2 fights a month. I my self haven't been in one though.
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