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Old 11-29-2011, 12:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Question Very sore, coach says come back anyways?

So I started going to this boxing gym in my city. It is free, because it is for inner city youth. I'm 22, to old to be in the program, soI am a volunteer with them thus I earned my place to be a fighter there. I am very accustomed to training, and pushing my body. At my old gym, my coaches would tell me to "listen to your body". If your to sore to train then rest, and come the next day. I am pretty conditioned, but not in fighting shape yet. I started with these guys yesterday, and they put me through a very long, and intense session that reminds me of when I was gettting ready for a fight in peak condition, and really being pushed. I did a very long routine that involved me hopping in place for about 20 minutes, doing all kinds of workouts in between like jumping, sidestepping, doing sprawls, punching in place, throwing medicine ball ect. Then we did ab-work for 20 minutes, which seemed more like military training then actual conditioning. Pretty much the entire time all we did they had us keep our feet 6 inches off the ground, if it touched the ground you would then do push-ups. Then 6 rounds of jump roping non-stop. Then hitting the bag for 4 rounds no pauses in between bells. Then throwing 1000 one-two combos, again non-stop. This was my FIRST day there. Luckily I train really had on my own, and was able to do the routine. I told them I'm going to be to sore to come tomorrow, and I will come the next day. They told me to come anyways.... I thought the training cycle is: Hard work, nutrition, and rest...
I just want someones advice on what they think of this. Sorry if the post is to long, I felt I needed to ad all the details in. Thank you.
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I find it weird that you guys do ab work, push ups and rope skipping before doing the bag work and shadowboxing. Sounds more like bootcamp style training than real boxing training.

Anyway if it was your first training session there I suggest you rest for one or two days before your next training.
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I don't think it's much of a boxing gym, I agree with you about the training, we didn't even stretch. I just wanted someone to confirm what I thought. Thanks.
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Just wondering is it a qualified boxing gym or is a mcgym or boxercise gym. Any fighters come out of it that have any success? IMO id say its prolly a bootcamp based around boxing since your first day even if you didnt have private sessions should be based around what you know and how far you can go. Not throwing you to the dogs.
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Just wondering is it a qualified boxing gym or is a mcgym or boxercise gym. Any fighters come out of it that have any success? IMO id say its prolly a bootcamp based around boxing since your first day even if you didnt have private sessions should be based around what you know and how far you can go. Not throwing you to the dogs.
It is U.S.A certified boxing gym. Honestly I think only 1 coach really knows his ****. I overheard him saying he worked with Roy Jones Jr. The other day. The bad part is he only comes 3 times a week. The other coaches seem to know as much as me about boxing, and I honestly feel like I know more about training. The gym is free so private sessions are for the people who are serious about fighting. They just moved so the gym is fully functioning yet. Anyways I am not advanced in boxing so I know this place will suit me for now, although I will probably go elsewhere in a few months. One of the coaches daughters fights she won the nationals last year I believe in Golden Gloves, and a few other golden gloves winners, and olympic qualifiers that didn't make it. No champions thats I know of unfortunately....
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I find it weird that you guys do ab work, push ups and rope skipping before doing the bag work and shadowboxing. Sounds more like bootcamp style training than real boxing training.

Anyway if it was your first training session there I suggest you rest for one or two days before your next training.
I agree. Calisthenics should never be done before heavy bag work, rope skipping or the boxing training itself although in between rounds, at the end of the workout or on a separate day is okay

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So I started going to this boxing gym in my city. It is free, because it is for inner city youth. I'm 22, to old to be in the program, soI am a volunteer with them thus I earned my place to be a fighter there. I am very accustomed to training, and pushing my body. At my old gym, my coaches would tell me to "listen to your body". If your to sore to train then rest, and come the next day. I am pretty conditioned, but not in fighting shape yet. I started with these guys yesterday, and they put me through a very long, and intense session that reminds me of when I was gettting ready for a fight in peak condition, and really being pushed. I did a very long routine that involved me hopping in place for about 20 minutes, doing all kinds of workouts in between like jumping, sidestepping, doing sprawls, punching in place, throwing medicine ball ect. Then we did ab-work for 20 minutes, which seemed more like military training then actual conditioning. Pretty much the entire time all we did they had us keep our feet 6 inches off the ground, if it touched the ground you would then do push-ups. Then 6 rounds of jump roping non-stop. Then hitting the bag for 4 rounds no pauses in between bells. Then throwing 1000 one-two combos, again non-stop. This was my FIRST day there. Luckily I train really had on my own, and was able to do the routine. I told them I'm going to be to sore to come tomorrow, and I will come the next day. They told me to come anyways.... I thought the training cycle is: Hard work, nutrition, and rest...
I just want someones advice on what they think of this. Sorry if the post is to long, I felt I needed to ad all the details in. Thank you.
It seems your gym is more geared towards what they call "boxercise" than training fighters, but then again I don't know since I don't know the place. In your last post you said that out of all the trainers there only one knows his stuff, first know how much experience he has in boxing(i.e. has he boxed, how many years he has been involved in the sport,etc) and ifg he has solid credentials try to train with him as much as possible. To prepare your body for boxing, you should be doing your roadwork in the morning to build and strengthen your aerobic base. Boxing training will develop and hone your skills particularly with sparring. Calisthenics and other forms of hard conditioning like hill sprints will further strengthen your body and give you the necessary strength, speed, and stamina needed.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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For sure. They tried to get me to do the "bootcamp" training the other day but I said no. They were cool with it. They don't even stretch, they just start going hard its crazy... That's good advice though, pretty much all the good trainers used to fight, or have some link to boxing. I'm just gonna go here for now because it's free, and I can at least use all the equipment, and get sparring in. In a few months I'm going to move to a palce more geared toward preparing serious fighters for a career. Who knows though it might end up being a decent gym. They just moved locations, so I haven't met everyone or spent nearly enough time to find out.
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