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Old 01-22-2012, 04:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hi, well im about to end my first month of boxing training and its been awesome. Im gaing strength and endurance(slowly) and loosing weight.

Now i have a lot of weight to loose, and up till this point my Low carb diet had been working. I started boxing after i had a long stall in my weightloss and boxing helped break it. Now im having a odd problem. My hunger has gone up alot. Now before i started boxing i always had a healthy appitite, but i always kept my choices limited to what my low carb plan allowed for. I knew my stall was related to the fact that i had stopped excercsizing, but kept eating like i was. I wasnt gaining, but not loosing weight either.

Since i have started boxing, my Hunger level has gone up ALOT! Infact this month has been my worst month ever, with my will power evaporating almost comepletely.. Im not sure what to do. Whats weirder, is my cheats before would make me gain like 5lbs+ after words, but now i only gain 2-3 tops and it comes off faster. But my hunger is sky high now. Im not sure what to do, i cant afford the carbblocking/appitite surpressing stuff at complete nutrition store, so thats out.

Is it time for me to step out of the atkins/primal style and into something else? Or should i just chug more water when a hunger urge hits? WTF do i do HELP!!!
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Old 01-28-2012, 02:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Low carb is a bad idea for athletes because carbs are your main source of energy, which is probably why you have no power and feel hungry all the time.

Weight loss is mostly about eating fewer calories than what you burn up...go here and find out your caloric needs per day, then eat 500 or so calories less than that. If you dont lose weight then lower it by a hundred calories and so on, while keeping in mind your energy and sanity level. Don't starve yourself.

As far as your macronutrients go, eat a lot of good protein like chicken, turkey, and egg whites. Eat only complex carbohydrates like brown rice and oatmeal. Keep your fat intake down as much as you can. Try to split your food up into about 6 smallish meals and eat every 2-3 hours or so, this will make your body burn up calories faster than if you ate 3 large meals.

Run in the morning, train for an hour or two in the gym and the weight will come off.
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the Reply! Im learry about eating "normaly". When i say my cheats will gain me 5lbs, thats only for one meal, and ill be that much heavyier the next day. It happens that fast. Well the boxing sessions are only 3 times a week, and i go to all of them. My doctor says no running till i loose a significant portion of my weight im carrying, or i risk serious injury to my knees. I have a low impact stationary bike i could use, but how long should i do it and for what intensity.

I was considering getting a dvd from black belt magazine called Conditioning for strikers, it has body weight excersizes and kettlebell workouts, medicine ball work outs and work outs for something called a Clubbell. I thought that would be good for days in between my 1.5 hour boxing sessions. I do truelly wish the boxing gym was open more then 3 days a week tho.
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Old 01-29-2012, 12:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Well that's the thing if you eat less than what you expend living/exercising then you cannot gain weight, its just not possible. It'd be like being able to drive more distance with less gas in your tank. If you have a calorie deficit then you lose weight, pretty simple.

I think the reason why you feel so hungry is because you're now exercising and you are eating few carbs which is a bad combination...carbohydrates are your fuel, you need them for energy. Your body is telling you it needs fuel, which mainly comes from carbohydrates.

Read this: Sports Nutrition - Carbohydrates - How Carbohydrates Provide Energy for Exercise

It's important that you consume the right kind of carbs though, complex carbs like whole grains...don't get your carbohydrates from pizza or white bread. Eat brown rice and rolled oatmeal. High protein and low fat is also important.

As far as your "cheats" go, what are you eating? It takes 3000 calories to gain one pound of fat. To gain 5 pounds you'd need to eat 15,000 calories, which is like 25 quarter pounder's and even then its just not physically possible to digest all that and have the body store it as fat in 24 hours. Either your scale is off or you're losing and gaining mostly water weight.

That bike of yours would work, id go out and get a heart rate monitor and then try to keep your heart rate in the 120-130 range for as long as you can for up to an hour a day. If you can't do a whole hour then do as much as you can and work your way up until you can.

Let me know if you need help figuring out a new diet.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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I do think it is mostly water weight when i do cheat.

Im defineatly going to need help figuring out a new diet, becuase my goals demand it. I want to compete, which means i have to work out hard every day, not just my boxing gym days. Im pretty sure about what my non boxing day work outs will be, i just need to figure out the dietary approach. I have been low carbing for a year, and its kinda a ingrained habbit. I dont eat bread, or pasta any more. Truthfully i have had it ingrained in me that carbs are bad, so i dont even truely know what a complex carb is out side of the 2 you mentioned.
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Any suggestions on a Diet i should be following? Im at a total loss.

My question is, regarding carbs and weight loss is this. If your body stores carbs in the muscle as glycogen, which it burns durning excersize, how do you loose weight? If they body burns the glycogen stores first, its not burning the fat stores right? Help me make the connection.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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If your body stores carbs in the muscle as glycogen, which it burns durning excersize, how do you loose weight? If they body burns the glycogen stores first, its not burning the fat stores right? Help me make the connection.
No, ignore that part. Like I said before, its all about how many calories you EAT versus how many you BURN.

If you only eat 2400 calories but your body burns 3200, then your body will burn 800 calories of fat to make up for the difference. 3500 calories equals one pound of fat.

In order for me to do a diet for you, you need to tell me how much you weigh, your body fat percentage and what weight you wish to be.

Go here to find out your body fat percentage, you need a tape measure like a tailor uses.

Home Body Fat Test
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Ok, I started my weight loss journey over around 420lbs. UP to this point i have lost 126lbs. My weight is kinda sitting steady around 295, but it goes up and down and is roller coastery right now. I am 5'8" with a bmi around 45. I wish to be around 168-180.

I have come such a long way, but have such a long way to go. I dont really know how to eat anymore. Back when all i was doing was riding the bike,which is about endurance, it played nicely with my low carb diet. Now that im boxing, i run out of gass very quickly and my performance goes through the floor. I have been not eating on plan for the last few work outs and i can tell a performance differance.

Im scared of carbs, they break down into sugar, and sugar is diabetas. Im not diabetic, but i want to avoid it and the associated death sentance at all costs.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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That's a pretty good amount of weight loss already, congratulations. What I need to know is your bodyfat percentage though, not your BMI.

There is a way to convert BMI into bodyfat percentage but I need your age first.

What would be better though is if you did the bodyfat calculator thing I linked to earlier in my previous post. That would be most accurate.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Im 30 years old, and i did the calculator thing and got my body fat percentage as 55.5.

As stated earlier i box 1.5 hours 3x weekly, i just need to figure out a diet and a work out on the non boxing days and ill be golden..
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