The Professor
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Breakdown of the Top 20 All Time Great Heavyweights
Top 20 Greatest Heavyweights of ALL Time
In No Definite Order:
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Jack Johnson
Harry Wills
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Sam Langford
Sonny Liston
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier
Riddick Bowe
Jack Dempsey
James J. Jeffries
Joe Jeannette
Jack Sharkey
Sam McVea
Max Schmeling
Criteria
Notable Wins:
Any wins over proven quality opposition (currently A or B rated at the time of the fight)
Over the hill 'A' level fighters count as 'B' level
Past their prime 'A / B' level fighters count as 'A / B' level
Some fighters may also be considered by minus levels even in their prime
PrePrime vs PrePrime and Overthehill vs Overthehill taken into consideration
Notable Losses:
Losses that occurred during the near prime but preprime
Losses that occurred during the prime
Losses that occurred during the near prime but postprime
Questionable Wins / Losses / Draws:
Any disputed victory or defeat regardless of prime status or quality of opposition
Notable NCs:
Nocontests become notable for a fighter if he was clearly winning
Quality of opposition is relevant
Quality Points:
B rated fighters are worth .5 points
B rated fighters are worth 1 point
A rated fighters are woth 1.5 points
A rated fighters are worth 2 points
Repeat victories over an opponent are worth half the original point value
In the case of a notable NC half the appropriate point value is given
Detraction Points:
Prime losses by decision cost 2 points, pre / post cost 1 point
Prime losses by stoppage cost 4 points, pre / post cost 2 points
Repeat losses cost half the original value
I've taken the time to maticulously put together the notable career resumes of the previously listed ATG fighters. If there's anything I made a mistake on in the lists below or some things I left out in a fighter's resume, please let me know. I define a credible opponent by the accomplishment of beating 2 or more other credible fighters. Losses are not taken into account when assessing if another fighter is credible, unless a win over such a fighter came in a period of which that fighter did nothing but lose. Exceptions can be made for a fighter's credibility (should he not have at least 2 credible wins) if he was a victim of close decision losses or drew with 'A' level opponents. Also, exceptions can also be made that an over the hill former 'A' level fighter merely reduces to A in the case that he was really 'A+' level to begin with. Also, Light Heavyweight fighters who were able to beat credible Heavyweights are considered credible as well. If you doubt the legitness of any of the names you see on these resumes, I encourage you to challenge me on it. I've most recently added a point system to evaluate these fighters resumes. I'm open to suggestions about my placement of opponents in the A / A / B / B departments. Don't think of it like real grades, A and B merely mean between A and B and between B and C respectively. For my point evaluations I go strictly by the record, no subjectivity involved.
Joe Louis
Notable Wins:
Charley Massera
Lee Ramage (x2)
Patsy Perroni
Don “Red” Barry
Natie Brown
Roy Lazer
Primo Carnera <PostPrime>
King Levinsky
Max Baer
Paulino Uzcudun
Charley Retzlaff
Jack Sharkey <Over the hill>
Al Ettore
Bob Pastor (x2)
Jim Braddock
Tommy Farr
Nathan Mann
Max Schmeling <PostPrime>
John Henry Louis <Past his prime> *Light Heavyweight Champion
“Two Ton” Toney Galento
Arturo Godoy (x2)
Johnny Paycheck
Red Burman
Gus Dorazio
Abe Simon (x2)
Tony Musto
Buddy Baer (x2)
Billy Conn (x2) <Both fighters past their prime in 2nd bout> *Light Heavyweight Champion
Lou Nova
Tami Mauriello
Jersey Joe Walcott (x2)
Lee Savold <Both fighters over the hill>
Jimmy Bivins <Both fighters over the hill>
Notable Losses:
Max Schmeling I [KO 12] *No excuse, but impressive Louis lasted as long as he did
Questionable Wins:
Arturo Godoy I
Jersey Joe Walcott I
'A' level wins:
M. Baer, Braddock, Schmeling, Conn I, Walcott (x2)
'A' level wins:
Carnera, Uzcudun, Lewis, Conn II, Farr
'B' level wins:
Massera, Ramage (x2), Perroni, Barry, Brown, Lazer, Levinsky, Retzlaff, Sharkey, Ettore, Pastor (x2), Mann, Galento, Godoy (x2), Paycheck, Burman, Dorazio, Simon (x2), B. Baer (x2), Nova, Mauriello, Bivins
'B' level wins:
Musto, Savold
Point Total: 11 + 6.75 + 24.5 + 1 – 4 = 39.25
Muhammad Ali
Notable Wins:
Doug Jones
Henry Cooper (x2)
Sonny Liston (x2) <Both fights past his prime>
Floyd Patterson (x2) <1st fight Past his prime> <2nd fight Over the hill>
George Chuvalo (x2) <2nd fight Over the hill>
Brian London
Karl Mildenberger
Cleveland Williams <Over the hill>
Ernie Terrell
Zora Folley <Over the hill>
Jerry Quarry (x2)
Oscar “Ringo” Bonavena
Jimmy Ellis
Buster Mathis
Joe Bugner (x2)
Ken Norton (x2)
Joe Frazier (x2)
George Foreman <Undefeated>
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Earnie Shavers
Leon Spinks
Notable Losses:
Joe Frazier I *No excuse, Ali had 2 tune up fights against world class fighters
Ken Norton I <Ali post prime> *Norton broke Ali's jaw
Leon Spinks I *Ali was over the hill, but Leon....worst Heavyweight Champion of ALL time
Questionable Wins:
Sonny Liston II
Jimmy Young
Ken Norton (All wins questionable)
'A' level wins:
Norton (x2), Frazier (x2), Foreman
'A' level wins:
Liston (x2), Patterson I, Terrell, Quarry (x2), Ellis, Bugner (x2), Lyle, Young, Shavers
'B' level wins:
Jones, Cooper (x2), Patterson II, Chuvalo I, London, Mildenberger, Williams, Folley, Bonavena, Mathis
'B' level wins:
Spinks, Chuvalo II
Point Total: 8 + 15.75 + 10 + .75 – 4 = 30.5
Jack Johnson
Notable Wins:
Frank Childs (x2)
George Gardner
Denver Ed Martin (x2)
Sam McVea (x3) <Undefeated>
Sandy Ferguson (x3)
Black Bill (x4)
Jim Jeffords (x2)
Jack Munroe
Morris Harris
Joe Jeannette (x3)
Sam Langford
Bob Fitzsimmons <Over the hill> *Light Heavyweight
Tommy Burns
Tony Ross
Al Kaufman
James J. Jeffries <Undefeated> <Over the hill>
Frank Moran
Tom Cowler
Jack Thompson
Notable Losses:
Marvin Hart
Jess Willard [KO 26] <Incriminating circumstances>
Questionable Losses:
Marvin Hart
'A' level wins:
McVea (x3), Jeannette (x3), Langford, Burns
'A' level wins:
Ferguson (x3), Kaufman
'B' level wins:
Frank Childs (x2), George Gardner, Denver Ed Martin (x2), Jack Munroe, Morris Harris, Bob Fitzsimmons, Tony Ross, James J. Jeffries, Frank Moran, Tom Cowler, Jack Thompson
'B' level wins:
Black Bill (x4), Jim Jeffords (x2)
Point Total: 12 + 4.5 + 12 + 2 – 2 = 28.5
*Note, did not count the Willard loss against him due to taking the fight after being convicted of violating the Mann Act.
Larry Holmes
Notable Wins:
Earnie Shavers (x2)
Ken Norton <Past his prime>
Ossie Ocasio <Undefeated>
Mike Weaver (x2) <Both overthehill in 2nd fight>
Leroy Jones <Undefeated>
Trevor Berbick
Leon Spinks
Renaldo Snipes <Undefeated>
Gerry Cooney <Undefeated>
Randall Cobb
Tim Witherspoon <Undefeated>
Marvis Frazier <Undefeated>
James 'Bonecrusher' Smith (x2) <Both overthehill in 2nd fight>
David Bey <Undefeated>
Carl 'The Truth' Williams <Undefeated>
Ray Mercer <Undefeated>
Jesse Ferguson
Butterbean
Notable Losses:
Michael Spinks (x2) *Holmes past his prime
Questionable Wins:
Tim Witherspoon
Questionable Losses:
Michael Spinks II
'A' level wins:
Tim Witherspoon, Ray Mercer
'A' level wins:
Earnie Shavers (x2), Ken Norton, Gerry Cooney
'B' level wins:
Ossie Ocasio, Mike Weaver I, Leroy Jones, Trevor Berbick, Renaldo Snipes, Randall Cobb, Marvis Frazier, Bonecrusher Smith I, Carl Williams
'B' level wins:
Leon Spinks, David Bey, Jesse Ferguson, Mike Weaver II, Boncrusher Smith II
Point Total: 4 + 5.25 + 9 + 2 – 1.5 = 18.75
Evander Holyfield
Notable Wins:
Dwight Muhammad Qawi (x2) <1st fight Past his prime> <2nd fight Over the hill>
Ricky Parkey
Ossie Ocasio
Carlos De Leon
Pinklon Thomas
Michael Dokes
Adilson Rodrigues
Alex Stewart (x2) <Undefeated>
James 'Buster' Douglas
George Foreman
Bert Cooper
Larry Holmes
Riddick Bowe <Undefeated>
Ray Mercer
Mike Tyson (x2) <Past his prime>
Michael Moorer
John Ruiz
Hasim Rahman
Fres Oquendo
Notable Losses:
Riddick Bowe (x2) [UD 12] [TKO 8] *Holyfield had Hepatitis in the bout that ended in TKO
Michael Moorer *Holyfield had heart problems
Lennox Lewis *Holyfield past his prime
Questionable Wins:
Riddick Bowe
Ray Mercer
Questionable Losses:
Nikolay Valuev
'A' level wins:
Bowe, Mercer, Tyson (x2), Moorer
'A' level wins:
Qawi I, Foreman, Holmes
'B' level wins:
Qawi II, Ricky Parkey, Ossie Ocasio, Carlos De Leon, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Dokes, Alex Stewart (x2), James 'Buster' Douglas, John Ruiz, Hasim Rahman
'B' level wins:
Adilson Rodrigues, Bert Cooper, Fres Oquendo
Point Total: 9 + 4.5 + 10 + 1.5 – 8 = 17
Sonny Liston
Notable Wins:
Johnny Summerlin (x2)
Marty Marshall (x2) [1st fight prime] [2nd fight Marshall given 4 days notice] *Light Heavyweight
Johnny Gray [PrePrime]
Billy Hunter
Ben Wise
Bert Whitehurst (x2)
Julio Mederos
Wayne Bethea
Frankie Daniels *Light Heavyweight
Mike DeJohn
Cleveland Williams (x2)
Nino Valdes [PostPrime]
Willi Besmanoff
Howard King (x2)
Roy Harris
Zora Folley
Eddie Machen
Albert Westphal
Floyd Patterson (x2)
Gerhard Zech
Amos Johnson
Elmer Rush
Henry Clark
Roger Rischer [PostPrime]
Amos Lincoln
Billy Joiner
Chuck Wepner
Notable Losses:
Muhammad Ali (x2) [RTD 7] [KO 1] {Liston PostPrime}
Questionable Losses:
Muhammad Ali II (One of the all time worst ref jobs)
'A' level wins:
Zora Folley, Eddie Machen, Floyd Patterson (x2)
'A' level wins:
Cleveland Williams (x2)
'B' level wins:
Johnny Summerlin (x2), Marty Marshall II, Wayne Bethea, Nino Valdes, Roy Harris, Henry Clark
'B' level wins:
Johnny Gray, Marty Marshall III, Billy Hunter, Ben Wise, Bert Whitehurst (x2), Julio Mederos, Frankie Daniels, Mike DeJohn, Willi Besmanoff, Howard King (x2), Albert Westphal, Gerhard Zech, Amos Johnson, Elmer Rush, Roger Rischer, Amos Lincoln, Billy Joiner, Chuck Wepner
Point Total: 7 + 2.25 + 6.5 + 9.25 – 3 = 22
George Foreman
Notable Wins:
Chuck Wepner
Gregorio Peralta (x2) <PostPrime>
George Chuvalo
Boone Kirkman
Joe Frazier (x2) <Undefeated> <Over the hill in 2nd fight>
Ken Norton
Ron Lyle
Scott LeDoux
Dwight Muhammad Qawi <Both fighters over the hill>
Bert Cooper
Gerry Cooney <Both fighters over the hill>
Adilson Rodrigues
Alex Stewart
Pierre Coetzer
Michael Moorer <Undefeated>
Axel Schulz
Lou Savarese <Undefeated>
Notable Losses:
Muhammad Ali [KO 8] *Due to exhaustion, not hurt
Jimmy Young *No excuse
Questionable Wins:
Gregorio Peralta I
Alex Stewart
Axel Schulz
Lou Savarese
Questionable Losses:
Shannon Briggs
'A' level wins:
Joe Frazier I, Ken Norton, Michael Moorer
'A' level wins:
Ron Lyle, Joe Frazier II
'B' level wins:
Gregorio Peralta I, George Chuvalo, Boone Kirkman, Alex Stewart, Axel Schulz, Lou Savarese
'B' level wins:
Chuck Wepner, Gregorio Peralta II, Scott LeDoux, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Bert Cooper, Gerry Cooney, Adilson Rodrigues, Pierre Coetzer
Point Total: 6 + 2.25 + 6 + 3.75 – 6 = 12
Mike Tyson
Notable Wins:
Jesse Ferguson
Marvis Frazier
Jose Ribalta
Alonzo Ratliff
Trevor Berbick
James 'Bonecrusher' Smith
Pinklon Thomas
Tony Tucker [Undefeated]
Tyrell Biggs [Undefeated]
Larry Holmes [Over the hill]
Tony Tubbs
Michael Spinks [Undefeated] [PostPrime]
Frank Bruno (x2) [PostPrime in 2nd bout]
Carl 'The Truth' Williams
Alex Stewart
Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock (x2)
Buster Mathis Jr. [Undefeated]
Bruce Seldon
Francois Botha
Lou Savarese
Brian Nielsen
Clifford Etienne
Notable NCs:
Orlin Norris
Andrew Golota
Notable Losses:
James 'Buster' Douglas [TKO 10] [Tyson PostPrime, distracted, and too heavily favored to win]
Evander Holyfield (x2) [TKO 11] [DQ 3] [Tyson PostPrime]
Questionable Losses:
Buster Douglas (Long 10 count) [His mother who died the night before arranged this from Heaven]
Lennox Lewis
Notable Wins:
Ossie Ocasio [PostPrime]
Gary Mason [Undefeated]
Mike Weaver [PostPrime]
Tyrell Biggs
Levi Billups
Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock
Tony Tucker [PostPrime]
Frank Bruno [PostPrime]
Lionel Butler
Tommy Morrison [PostPrime]
Ray Mercer
Oliver McCall
Henry Akinwande [Undefeated]
Andrew Golota
Shannon Briggs
Zeljko Mavrovic [Undefeated]
Evander Holyfield [Over the hill]
Michael Grant [Undefeated]
Francois Botha
David Tua
Hasim Rahman
Mike Tyson [Over the hill]
Vitali Klitschko
Notable Losses:
Oliver McCall [TKO 2]
Hasim Rahman [KO 5] [Lewis PostPrime]
Questionable Wins:
Ray Mercer
Evander Holyfield II
Questionable Draws:
Evander Holyfield I (Lewis deserved to win)
'A' level wins:
Vitali Klitschko
'A' level wins:
Ray Mercer, Evander Holyfield
'B' level wins:
Razor Ruddock, Gary Mason, Tony Tucker, Frank Bruno, Tommy Morrison, Oliver McCall, Andrew Golota, Shannon Briggs, Michael Grant, David Tua, Hasim Rahman, Mike Tyson
'B' level wins:
Ossie Ocasio, Mike Weaver, Tyrell Biggs, Levi Billups, Lionel Butler, Henry Akinwande, Zeljko Mavrovic, Francois Botha
Point Total: 2 + 3 + 12 + 4 – 6 = 15
Harry Wills
Notable Wins:
George 'Kid' Cotton (x3)
Sam Langford (x13) [Prime (x5)] [Postprime (x4)] [Over the hill (x4)]
Willie Meehan
Joe Jeannette (x2) [rematch Jeannette overthehill]
Sailor Grande *Light Heavyweight
John Lester Johnson (x3)
Sam McVea (x2) [rematch McVea overthehill]
Jeff Clark (x8) [Prime (x3)] [Postprime (x3)] [Over the hill (x2)]
Bill Tate (x4)
Jack Thompson (x6)
Edward KO Kruvosky
Ole Anderson
Fred Fulton
Battling Jim McCreary
Gunboat Smith <Postprime>
Kid Norfolk *Light Heavyweight
Tut Jackson
Bartley Madden
Luis Angel Firpo
Charley Weinert
Floyd Johnson
Notable Losses:
Sam McVea (x2) *Both Losses PrePrime
Sam Langford (x2) [KO 14] [KO 19] *First KO PrePrime
Battling Jim Johnson [TKO 2] *Bout ended due to broken wrist (only count as 2 pt deduction)
'A' level wins:
Sam Langford (x5), Sam McVea III, Fred Fulton
'A' level wins:
Willie Meehan, Jeff Clark (x3), Sam Langford (x4), Joe Jeannette, Sam McVea IV, Kid Norfolk, Luis Angel Firpo, Charley Weinert
'B' level wins:
George 'Kid' Cotton (x3), Sailor Grande, Jeff Clark (x3), John Lester Johnson (x3), Bill Tate (x4), Jack Thompson (x6), Battling Jim McCreary, Sam Langford (x4), Tut Jackson, Bartley Madden, Floyd Johnson
'B' level wins:
Jeff Clark (x2), Edward KO Kruvosky, Ole Anderson, Gunboat Smith
Point Total: 10 + 14.25 + 18.5 + 2 – 7.5 = 37.25
Sam Langford
Notable Wins:
Joe Jeannette (x8)
Jim Barry (x7)
Sandy Ferguson
John Wille (x2)
Tony Ross (x2)
Fireman Jim Flynn (x5) [Only counting first 2, last 3 Flynn was over the hill]
Morris Harris (x2)
Al Kubiak (x2)
John Klondike Haines (x2)
Mike Schreck <Past his prime>
Stanley Ketchel *Doesn't count, only on here to show Langford > Any Middleweight
Battling Jim Johnson (x9)
Jeff Clark (x5) *Light Heavyweight
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien *Light Heavyweight
Sam McVea (x6)
Porky Dan Flynn (x2)
John Lester Johnson
Tom McMahon
Harry Wills (x2)
Gunboat Smith
Jack Thompson (x4)
Bill Tate (x4)
Andre Anderson
Kid Norfolk *Light Heavyweight
Tiny Jim Herman
Frank Farmer *Light Heavyweight
George Godfrey (x2)
Lee Anderson (x2)
Bearcat Wright (x3)
Tut Jackson (x2)
Tiger Flowers *Also doesn't count, just further proof Langford > Any Middleweight
Notable Losses:
Jack Blackburn (Avenged) *NonHeavyweight bout [PrePrime]
Dave Holly (Avenged) *NonHeavyweight bout [PrePrime]
Larry Temple (Avenged 3 times) *NonHeavyweight bouts [PrePrime]
Joe Jeannette (x3) [TKO 8] [NWS 10] [PTS 12] {First of two men to KO Langford in his prime}
Jack Johnson
Young Peter Jackson (Avenged 4 times) *Middleweight bouts [2nd man to KO Langford in his prime]
Jim Barry
Sam McVea (x2)
Gunboat Smith
H. Wills(x13) [PTS 10] [NWS 10] [PTS 20] [NWS 10] [NWS 8] [NWS 10] [NWS 12] [KO 6] [TKO 7] [NWS 8] [PTS 15] [PTS 15] [PTS 10]
Jeff Clark (x2) [Over the hill in 2nd bout]
Bill Tate (x4) [1st fight past his prime, rest over the hill]
Fred Fulton (x2) [TKO 7] [PTS 4] {Past his prime in 1st, over the hill in 2nd}
'A' level wins:
Jeannette (x7), McVea (x5), Wills (x2)
'A' level wins:
Jeannette, McVea, Ferguson, Norfolk, O'Brien
'B' level wins:
Jim Barry (x5), Tony Ross (x2), Fireman Jim Flynn (x2), Morris Harris (x2), Al Kubiak (x2), John Klondike Haines (x2), Mike Schreck, Battling Jim Johnson (x9), Jeff Clark (x5), Porky Dan Flynn (x2), John Lester Johnson, Tom McMahon, Gunboat Smith, Jack Thompson (x4), Bill Tate (x4), Tiny Jim Herman, Frank Farmer, George Godfrey (x2), Lee Anderson (x2), Bearcat Wright (x3)
'B' level wins:
Jim Barry (x2), John Wille (x2), Andre Anderson, Tut Jackson (x2)
Point Total: 17 + 6 + 36 + 2.75 – 28 = 33.75
*Note, no Middleweight or below losses counted against Langford since no credit was given for Middleweight or below wins.
Jack Dempsey
Notable Wins:
Joe Bonds
Andre Anderson
Bert Kenny *Light Heavyweight
**** Gilbert
Willie Meehan
Bob McAllister *Middleweight, but proven at Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight
Gunboat Smith (x2) [PostPrime]
Carl Morris (x3)
Homer Smith
Bill Brennan (x2)
Fred Fulton
Billy Miske (x2)
Battling Levinsky *Light Heavyweight
Jess Willard [PostPrime]
Georges Carpentier *Light Heavyweight
Tommy Gibbons *Light Heavyweight
Luis Angel Firpo
Jack Sharkey
Notable Losses:
Fireman Jim Flynn [KO 1] {Incriminating circumstances}
Willie Meehan (x2)
Gene Tunney (x2) *Dempsey PostPrime
Questionable Wins:
Luis Angel Firpo (Dempsey knocked out of the ring for over a minute)
Jack Sharkey (Low blow)
Questionable Losses:
Gene Tunney II (Long 10 count)
Questionable Draws:
John Lester Johnson 19160714 [Johnson's favor]
Willie Meehan 19170810 [Dempsey's favor]
Billy Miske 19180503 [Miske's favor]
'A' level wins:
Fred Fulton, Jack Sharkey
'A' level wins:
Willie Meehan, Billy Miske (x2), Battling Levinsky, Georges Carpentier, Tommy Gibbons, Luis Angel Firpo
'B' level wins:
Jess Willard, Gunboat Smith (x2), Carl Morris (x3), Bill Brennan (x2)
'B' level wins:
Joe Bonds, Andre Anderson, Bert Kenny, **** Gilbert, Bob McAllister, Homer Smith
Point Total: 4 + 9.75 + 6 + 3 – 4.5 = 18.25
*Note, did not take into account the Fireman Jim Flynn loss since it's widely believed Dempsey threw the fight, with evidence to support the claim.
Rocky Marciano
Notable Wins:
Roland LaStarza (x2) [Undefeated]
Rex Layne
Joe Louis [Over the hill]
Harry 'Kid' Matthews *Light Heavyweight
Jersey Joe Walcott (x2) [Post Prime]
Ezzard Charles (x2) [Post Prime]
Don Cockell
Archie Moore [Post Prime] *Light Heavyweight
Questionable Wins:
Roland LaStarza I
Ted Lowry I
'A' level wins:
None
'A' level wins:
Ezzard Charles (x2), Jersey Joe Walcott (x2), Roland LaStarza (x2), Rex Layne, Archie Moore
'B' level wins:
Joe Louis, Don Cockell, Harry 'Kid' Matthews
'B' level wins:
None
Point Total: 0 + 9.75 + 3 + 0 – 0 = 12.75
Joe Frazier
Notable Wins:
Oscar Bonavena (x2)
Eddie Machen [Over the hill]
Doug Jones *Light Heavyweight
George Chuvalo
Buster Mathis [Undefeated]
Manuel Ramos
Jerry Quarry (x2)
Jimmy Ellis (x2) [Prime in 1st] [Over the hill in 2nd]
Bob Foster *Light Heavyweight [Never proven at HW but prime top 10 ATG LHW]
Muhammad Ali [Undefeated] [PostPrime]
Ron Stander
Joe Bugner
Notable Losses:
George Foreman (x2) [TKO 2] [TKO 5] *1st loss prime, 2nd loss over the hill
Muhammad Ali (x2) [UD 12] [RTD 14] *postprime in both defeats
Questionable Wins:
Ringo Bonavena I
'A' level wins:
Ali
'A' level wins:
Quarry (x2), Ellis I
'B' level wins:
Bonavena, Machen, Jones, Chuvalo, Mathis, Ramos, Bugner
'B' level wins:
Foster, Stander, Ellis II
Point Total: 2 + 3.75 + 7 + 1.25 – 5.5 = 8.5
*Note, counted second loss to Ali as a decision loss, considering it wasn't a KO/TKO, Frazier wanted to continue, and Ali was going to quit himself.
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