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Old 05-29-2009, 04:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yep I'ma go and add Chuck Taylor for beating Frankie Abrams, Tony Pellone, and Honeychile Johnson.
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Yep I'ma go and add Chuck Taylor for beating Frankie Abrams, Tony Pellone, and Honeychile Johnson.
What are you going to rank him as?
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Old 05-29-2009, 05:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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What are you going to rank him as?
B-. He was 22-8-2 at the time he met Robinson and had been TKOed in half of the losses.
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Old 05-29-2009, 05:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Boxer Weight 1st-Rated Last-Rated Months-Rated Best-Rating

Zengaras, George 135 1937/09 1939/11 007 08*
So let me get this straight, he was rated first in September of 1937, and rated last in November of 1939. Yet he is not listed in the 1938 annual ratings, meaning he must have fallen out of the top 10 numerous times along the way. I assume 007 means he was rated 7 out of the 27 months along the way?
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Old 05-29-2009, 05:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Here's all the Hall of Famers they fought:

Abrams, Georgie Robinson 1 Soose 3 Burley 1 Apostoli 1 Zale 1 Brouillard 1 Yarosz 1 Cerdan 1
Angott, Sammy Robinson 3 Armstrong 1 Pep 1 Zivic 1 IWilliams 3 Miller 1 Jack 2 Jenkins 1 Arizmendi 2 Montgomery 3
Archer, Joey Robinson 1 Griffith 2 Tiger 1
Armstrong, Henry Robinson 1 Zivic 3 Ambers 2 Bass 1 Wright 1 MWolgast 1 Ross 1 Angott 1 Jack 1 Jenkins 2 Arizmendi 5
Barnes, Ray Robinson 1
Basilio, Carmen Robinson 2 IWilliams 1 Gfullmer 2 Gavilan 1 Graham 3 Jenkins 1
Basora, Jose Charles 1 Robinson 2 Zivic 1 LaMotta 4 HWilliams 7
Bell, O'Neill Robinson 1 Zivic 1 LaMotta 2 HWilliams 1
Bell, Tommy Robinson 2 Zivic 1 LaMotta 3 Gavilan 1
Belloise, Steve Robinson 1 HWilliams 1
Berger, Maxie Robinson 1 Zivic 1 IWilliams 1 MWolgast 1 Jack 1
Burns, Charley Robinson 1 Armstrong 2 Ambers 1 Bass 1 Montgomery 2
Castellani, Rocky Robinson 1 GFullmer 1 Gavilan 1 Giardello 1 Graham 1 Olson 1
Castiglione, Nick Robinson 1 Angott 2 Jenkins 1
Costner, George Robinson 2 IWilliams 1 LaMotta 1 Gavilan 1
Curcio, Joe Robinson 1 Zivic 1 Gavilan 1 Graziano 2
Delannoit, Cyrille Robinson 1 Turpin 1 Cerdan 2
Dellicurti, Vic Robinson 3 LaMotta 3
Docusen, Bernard Robinson 1
Downes, Terry Robinson 1 Tiger 1 Pastrano 1 Giardello 1
Doyle, Jimmy Robinson 1 Jenkins 1
Dupas, Ralph Robinson 1 Griffith 2 JBrown 1 Giardello 1
Dykes, Bobby Robinson 1 Gavilan 2 Pastrano 1 Giardello 1
Fullmer, Gene Robinson 4 Tiger 3 Basilio 2 Giardello 1
Fusari, Charley Robinson 1 Graziano 1
Gavilan, Kid Robinson 2 IWilliams 3 Basilio 1 Graham 4 Olson 1 Jack 1
Ghnouly, Joe Robinson 1 Armstrong 1 Bass 1 Miller 1 Canzoneri 1 Ross 1 Chocolate 1
Giardello, Joey Robinson 1 Tiger 4 Gfullmer 1 Graham 3
Graziano, Rocky Robinson 1 Zale 3
Guggino, Carl "Red" Robinson 1 Wright 1
Harrington, Stan Robinson 2 Griffith 1 Cokes 1
Harris, Ossie Robinson 2 Zivic 3 Burley 1 LaMotta 3 Zale 1
Hecht, Gerhard Robinson 1
Hernandez, Art Robinson 1 Griffith 1 Benvenuti 2
Hernandez, Ferd Robinson 1 Benvenuti 1 Rodriguez 1
Hudson, Cecil Robinson 2 Zivic 1 LaMotta 1 Graziano 1 Montgomery 1
Jannazzo, Izzy Robinson 4 Zivic 1 HWilliams 3 Ross 1
Jones, Ralph Tiger Robinson 1 Papp 1 GFullmer 2 Gavilan 3 Giardello 3 Olson 1
LaMotta, Jake Robinson 6 Zivic 4 HWilliams 1 Cerdan 1
Leahy, Mick Robinson 1 Benvenuti 1 Papp 1
Lee, Don Robinson 2 Zivic 1 Olson 1
Lello, Pete Robinson 1 Angott 2 Jenkins 2
Levine, Artie Robinson 1
Martin, Georgie Robinson 1 Battalino 1
Maxim, Joey* Charles 5 Walcott 3 Patterson 1 Moore 3 Robinson 1 Bivins 2 Pastrano 1 Olson 2
McDaniels, Jimmy Robinson 1 Armstrong 1 Angott 1
Mims, Holley Robinson 1 Griffith 1 Tiger 1 Rodriguez 1 Giardello 1
Motisi, Tony Robinson 1 Zivic 1
Moyer, Denny Robinson 2 Griffith 3 Benvenuti 1 Rodriguez 1 Monzon 1
Nettlow, Al Robinson 1 Montgomery 4
Olson, Carl Bobo Moore 1 Robinson 4 Torres 1 Maxim 1 Turpin 1 Gavilan 1
Pender, Paul Robinson 2 GFullmer 1 Basilio 1
Quarles, Norment Robinson 1 Ambers 2 Miller 2 Wright 2 MWolgast 2 Angott 1 Montgomery 2
Rangel, Sheik Robinson 1 Armstrong 1 Zivic 1 Apostoli 1 Corbett III 1
Rindone, Joe Robinson 2 Olson 1
Rubio, Norman Robinson 2 Zivic 2
Secreet, Sammy Robinson 1
Servo, Marty Robinson 2 Graziano 1 Jenkins 1
Shapiro, Maxie Robinson 1 Armstrong 1 Montgomery 2
Stretz, Hans Robinson 1 Turpin 1
Taylor, Chuck Robinson 1 Jack 1
Turner, Earl Robinson 1 Armstrong 1 Apostoli 2 Arizmendi 1
Turpin, Randy Robinson 2 Olson 1
Tygh, Jimmy Robinson 2 Bass 2 Canzoneri 1 Angott 1
Villemain, Robert Robinson 2 LaMotta 2 Gavilan 1 Olson 1
Wade, Aaron Tiger Moore 1 Robinson 1 Burley 3 HWilliams 2
Wallace, Frankie Robinson 1 Ambers 3 Bass 2 Berg 1 Miller 4 Canzoneri 2 Chocolate 1 Arizmendi 2 Montgomery 2
Wilson, Jackie (L.A.) Robinson 2 Zivic 1 LaMotta 1 Arizmendi 1
Zannelli, Ralph Robinson 1 Armstrong 3 Zivic 2 IWilliams 2 Gavilan 1 Angott 1
Zengaras, George Robinson 1 Pep 1 Jack 1 Montgomery 2
Zivic, Fritzie Robinson 2 Armstrong 3 Ambers 1 Burley 2 LaMotta 4 Conn 1 Angott 1 Jack 2 Jenkins 2 Montgomery 1

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Robinson looks in his prime on this shot:
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:36 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Every hero has a nemesis and it was just Robinson's luck that in his case it was Jake Lamotta one tough SOB..
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:27 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Great post Obama.

The Maxim fight was the only fight in history where the ref didn't make it to the final bell.

If you look at Sugar's record up through 1956, when he was 35 years old, he was 138-4-2. Out of those 4 losses, one of them was to Lamotta in their second fight, whom Sugar defeated already in their first bout & defeated 3 weeks later, even winning a decision against California Jackie Wilson in between. SRR went 30 rounds in 3 weeks, fighting Jake 20 of those rounds. Robinson beat Lamotta 5 out of 6 times by age 35. He also avenged another loss by beating Turpin the second time around. Another loss was to Maxim in the 104 degree heat, also moving up to light heavy.

I'm not sure if he got any undue decisions during that span, I think I overloaded my brain as far as boxing long ago and things seem foggy!

He was something else, that's for sure.
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:16 PM   #29 (permalink)
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great read and i don't know who has ever tried to argue hagler above robinson never met a person to do that personally.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:30 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Wow. This is some class stuff.

Obama is a professor! Robinson is the greatest. Although I think that Rocky Marciano is the greatest fighter of all time, he doesn't come near Robinson's resume. Hell, I don't think anybody does.
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