Jetcar said:
Perhaps you need to re-read my posts, JCC. I never used the word organic ONCE.
There was no slight intended. That is, if you take what I said as being so. That is, if you did.
I enjoy reading your posts!
Primarily, the reason I make the comments I did is only for reasons that whole foods (organic or undenatured) is growing in popularity today, and being strongly pushed and promoted.
Actually, it better to do your all grocery shopping in whole stores than to do your grocery shopping in the local supermarkets.
But its by far more expensive to do all your grocery shopping at whole foods stores.
You'll pay twice the price or even more for the same food in your local supermarkets.
But let's not forget that that's a business too.
Your grocery bill will more than double in fact will trible if you were to do all your grocery shopping in a whole food store.
The whole foods are more healthy, and better. Only, I'm not convinced that it that much better. I hope you are understanding what I'm trying to say.
You know it the funniest thing, but when in the early 1960s when I was a kid. There were even foods fads and fad diets back then too.
Someone had told me back then about all the great benefits of drinking carrot juice.
I was drinking so much carrot juice back then that I was turning orange. I mean, literally, my skin was turning orange for reasons drinking so much carrot juice.
Of course, even back then as a kid, I was very athletic and concerned about health and fitness even back at that ttime too.
It fact, I've always been very athletic and fanatical about physical conditioning since I was a kid.
Jetstar said:
I also clearly said that WHOLE foods were foods that weren't overly-manufactured, preserved or refined. (i.e.: 90% of all bread procudts) This doesn't automatically make them expensive.
As for you mention of bread!
Undoubtedly, the greatest food products condemned as lacking in the vital elements of nutrition is white bread and all white flour products, and rightly so.
In the refining process of white flour, the millers have unwisely extracted most of the important food constituents.
Most enriched white bread replaces only four of the twenty-two nutrients it originally started out with before the milling process and contains seventy-five percent less fiber than whole wheat breads. This is crime!
Along with white bread should be included such things as pies, puddings, pastry, cakes, doughnuts, muffins, cookies, biscuits and similar preparations made from white flour.
This white flour is the real part the millers should throw away for lack of nourishment.
You can not become heathly or strong by eating this product!
Whole wheat, on the other hand, has more vitamins, minerals and fiber than enriched white bread.
The whole wheat kernal contains all the essential food qualities in almost perfect proportions, however. Bread advertized as "whole wheat" must be made from 100% whole wheat flour.
Breads that are labled "cracked wheat" or "sported wheat" usually contain a large percentage of white flour.
Many 'so-called' wheat breads, for example, contain about 75% WHITE FLOUR.
So, a person should be careful to not be fooled by labels.
Any product labeled "whole wheat" must have whole wheat flour listed as the only type of flour used.
And if it doesn't you are not getting what the label is leading you to believe you are getting.
On a white flour diet, you clog the alimentary tract. The use of white bread and similar products made entirely of white flour is one of the causes of constipation.
If a person is eager to be free from this annoying condition, they have need to refrain when possible from using any foods where the base is white flour.
Fortunately, many of our breads today are fortified by addition of vitamin B-1. It is quite all right to eat such products.
Jetstar said:
You make some interesting points in your listing of certain foods.
I'm assuming you are listing them as sources of either protein/carbohydrates or fats?
I listed first those foods that I find containing a large percentage of protein.
Secondly, in the next list of foods (Carbohydrates), I listed foods containingh simple and/or complex carbs.
In the next list I listed foods that are very rich in Vitamins.
In the next list I listed foods that are predominant in fat.
Next I listed a group that are minerals.
And last I listed foods that are giving the essential fiber.
Milk and Chesse, I placed in my first list in which was listed with nuts, eggs, beans, soy, peas, poultry, lean meats and fish as being foods containing a larger percentage of proteins based on research I've done.
Research that I've done has lead me to believe that nuts, eggs, beans, soy, peas, poultry, lean meats including Milk and cheese are foods that contain a large percentage of protein.
Jetstar said:
Being that the yolk is the source of the Vitamin E, but also very high in cholesterol.
There are a lot of things that people who are in poor health can't eat, that the average normal healthy person can and that can be healthy for them to eat.
Mostly I find people that are unhealthy, often times are so due to not eating the right food, and for reasons of eating junk food, and also for reasons of lack of physical exercise, along with that of also not having a varied diet, and well balanced meals.
Eggs are good for you, drinking water is good for you.
But if you were to drink too much water it wouldn't be!
Nor, would eating too many eggs be good for you either.
We have need to have a varied diet and to not always to be eating the same food every day, and that is by far better and more healthy for the average normal healthy person.
Some today say you shouldn't eat more than three eggs a week, for reasons the egg yolk is high in cholesterol.
In other words, you could eat eggs for breakfast if you chose to do so every day, if you only eat the eggs whites and not egg yolks.
But for the normal average normal healthy person to eat an egg for breakfast is not unhealthy.
I'd would further note its a well-etablished fact that a great number of dieases may be avoided and even reversed merely by the selection of proper foods suited to the individual's requirements.
Notice that I said to the individuals requirements!
If your overweight, by cutting out the fat forming foods and exercising regularly, you will, other things being equal, become normal.
However, a person has need to be sure that their energy output is equal to or exceeds their calorie intake.
On the other hand, if underweight, a person can make considerable gains by following a well-planned dietic regime.
Its impossible to give menu lists to be observe all through life, this is why I gave a little space in an earlier post to give the information in which I did concerning foods, thereby enabling Texas Tryant to select his own wisely and carefully.
Jetstar said:
However, don't take this the wrong way, my point in response to your post is simply this:
not all foods are created equal.
For instance, there are "healthy" nuts, with essential fats in them, and then there are others which have a lot of useless and harmful fats in them.
Eating healthy might seem more expensive at first, but when one makes healthy choices (as you can attest to, based on your experience) one doesn't need to eat as much, because the food going in our bodies is doing a better job of providing us with what we need.
Agreed, some items are more expensive, but I often think that brocolli and apples are better for a body than almost any bread product out there. Both complex a
I can't imagine in a southern climate such as Texas that a bag of apples would cost more than 3$. Brocolli, two large heads probably cost 3$, as well. A much better investment than some foods that cost exactly the same and don't do half the amount of good for the body.
As always, research is a must, and experimenting with different foods and eating regimes will ultimately allow a person to determine what works best for them.
For fighters, it would seem obvious, that based on the training, the nutritional demands as well as the requirement to "make weight", the best approach is one that will allow them to keep their strength, provide them with endurance and stamina while maintaining the flexibility the sport demands.
Texas Tyrant, another suggestion might be to look up the diets/regimes of triathletes. Short of the punching, these guys have the body types and the type of other qualities that ressemble boxers' needs pretty closely.
Keep doing your research, determine what works best for your body, and make healthy choices.
Soon, you won't have to choose, it will just be automatic, and part of your lifestyle.
Good luck!
As JCC said above, it's about balance.
I would agree with this advice you gave to Texas Tyrant, and with much of what you said.
Also I would agree that whole foods (organic or undenatured foods) are better and more healthy.
I eat whole foods too.
Its only that I'm not fanatical about doing so is all, and I'm not suggesting that you are. Yet there are some or even many people today who are fanatical about it.
The reason that I'm not fanatical about eating only whole foods is only because I see no reason to be!
Just like in marketing of near every thing else today, in which people are wanting your money, there's hype used in promoting products such whole foods too, of course, that's a business too, you see.
I would say whole foods such as you would buy at whole food stores is more healthy to eat than the food mostly carried at the local supermarkets. Though many of the local supermarkets have now begin to carry some whole foods too.
I say its better, and by far more expensive too. But maybe not really all that much better as it is now being hyped to be is what I'm saying.
My wife calls the whole food supermarkets the "whole pay check stores!" (smiling)
JJC