[no dice nate]

Just watched this fight again for the first time since it took place and I was wondering how you guys scored it and what your thoughts on it were. On a sidenote, how do you think an all-German (by relocation, of course) fight would play out between Arthur Abraham and Felix Sturm. Isn't that a unification fight that makes sense if there ever was one? If I were Sturm, I certainly wouldn't come to the States again in order to fight Pavlik after getting robbed here once before. By the way, I saw that fight as 7 rounds to 5 in favor of Sturm 115-113.

 

[Sweet Pea]

Robbery. I had it 115-113 in favour of Sturm and the only reason Oscar won was because;

A) he was the bigger name
B) it set up the richest Middleweight fight in history.

 

[napoleon336]

115-113 Sturm. Wouldn't use the word "robbery" though. That word gets tossed around like crazy now a days.

 

[Obama]

Robbery. I had it 115-113 in favour of Sturm and the only reason Oscar won was because;

A) he was the bigger name
B) it set up the richest Middleweight fight in history.

What he said. :thumbsup:

 

[DRPUGILIST]

115-113 Sturm. Wouldn't use the word "robbery" though. That word gets tossed around like crazy now a days.

I totally agree. When you score a fight by one round to the other guy, it's not a robbery.

 

[Obama]

I totally agree. When you score a fight by one round to the other guy, it's not a robbery.

Unless all the rounds were really easy to score in which the guy who clearly won 7 of them ends up losing the fight.

 

[C.J.Rock]

C'mon guys be honest, Oscar had that fight won as long as he was standing up at the final bell. He'd won before he left the dressing room. Fighters like Jones jr & Mayweather made the excuses that they wouldnt fight abroad for fear of being robbed,and got away with it, but its OK for fighters to come here and lose very dubious decisions. Unfortunately its a world wide problem

 

[Obama]

C'mon guys be honest, Oscar had that fight won as long as he was standing up at the final bell. He'd won before he left the dressing room. Fighters like Jones jr & Mayweather made the excuses that they wouldnt fight abroad for fear of being robbed,and got away with it, but its OK for fighters to come here and lose very dubious decisions. Unfortunately its a world wide problem

No...it isn't ok. Pretty sure none of us said we thought Oscar deserved to win. Sturm would have went the distance with Hopkins had he won.

 

[Frode]

Don't remember how I scored it, but I had it close. I think I had Sturm just ahead.
I do remember De La Hoya didn't look to fit at 160 though.

 

[LeedsLad]

Sturm won the fight, Oscar got a gift to setup the fight with Hopkins.

 

[NFFC]

115-113 Sturm. Wouldn't use the word "robbery" though. That word gets tossed around like crazy now a days.

Completely agree. 115-113 ain't a "robbery".

 

[Dj Si Thompson]

I also had the fight in favour of Sturm. It should really of been another Oscar Del a Hoya loss.
Did anyone have Oscar up against Hopkins a couple of rounds before he got stopped?:dunno:

 

[C.J.Rock]

I notice no one commented when I said that the bad decisions are being dealt out world wide. Folk here say its OK for guys like jonesjr and mayweather to never travel abroad to fight, for fear of being robbed, but brush off guys like sturm coming here and getting jobbed. I'll go as far as to say that the Vegas boxing scene is just as corrupt as the German scene.

 

[NFFC]

I notice no one commented when I said that the bad decisions are being dealt out world wide. Folk here say its OK for guys like jonesjr and mayweather to never travel abroad to fight, for fear of being robbed, but brush off guys like sturm coming here and getting jobbed. I'll go as far as to say that the Vegas boxing scene is just as corrupt as the German scene.

I wouldn't go that far :laugh::laugh:.

 

[Obama]

I also had the fight in favour of Sturm. It should really of been another Oscar Del a Hoya loss.
Did anyone have Oscar up against Hopkins a couple of rounds before he got stopped?:dunno:

I think so, not sure though.

 

[Guest]

Sturm won the fight, Oscar got a gift to setup the fight with Hopkins.

That's the way I saw it too.

 

[Sweet Pea]

I also had the fight in favour of Sturm. It should really of been another Oscar Del a Hoya loss.
Did anyone have Oscar up against Hopkins a couple of rounds before he got stopped?:dunno:

I had Hopkins up by one or two rounds. But regardless Hopkins was always going to put De La Hoya away, and I predicted a Hopkins KO before the fight.

 

[LeedsLad]

I had Hopkins up by one or two rounds. But regardless Hopkins was always going to put De La Hoya away, and I predicted a Hopkins KO before the fight.

Personally i thought Hopkins was carrying him, it was a glorified sparring match.

 

[Sweet Pea]

Personally i thought Hopkins was carrying him, it was a glorified sparring match.

Yep. Hopkins just kept the fight going for a bit and then finished him off. De La Hoya will do the same thing with Pacquiao, then put him away in the 5th or 6th.