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1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (38-0, 24 KOs)


Welterweight champion
Hits: With his win against Oscar De La Hoya in May the best-selling pay-per-view ever, the popularity of the four-part "24/7" HBO show that led up to the fight and now his starring role on the hugely popular reality series "Dancing with the Stars," Mayweather has broken through and crossed over into the mainstream. That can only be viewed as a positive for all of boxing. It also is going to help make his Dec. 8 fight against Ricky Hatton a huge pay-per-view success.
Misses: If Mayweather makes it all the way to the "Dancing with the Stars" finale, he will be busy until mid-November, just a few weeks before the Hatton fight. It could be a huge distraction for the "Pretty Boy."

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2. Manny Pacquiao (45-3-2, 34 KOs)


Junior lightweight
Hits: The Filipino icon continued his impressive run by dominating the great Marco Antonio Barrera and sending him into retirement following their Oct. 5 rematch. It was a tougher fight than that in 2004, when Pacquiao scored an 11th-round TKO against Barrera, but it still was a fine performance from the PacMan.
Misses: Pacquiao is talking about moving up to lightweight in his next fight for a possible match with titlist David Diaz, instead of targeting a rematch with junior lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez, with whom he has unfinished business stemming from their exciting but unsatisfying 2004 draw.

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3. Bernard Hopkins (48-4-1, 32 KOs)


Light heavyweight champion
Hits: In talking to "The Executioner" recently, you could see the glint in his eye when he was asked about the possibility of fighting the winner of the Joe Calzaghe-Mikkel Kessler super middleweight championship fight. That would be a big promotion and an interesting fight, regardless of who wins Calzaghe-Kessler. Hopkins, even at 42, isn't looking to duck anyone.
Misses: If, for whatever reason, the Calzaghe-Kessler winner isn't interested in Hopkins, what does B-Hop do then? The only other fight out there for him might be a rematch with Roy Jones Jr. if Jones beats Felix Trinidad in January. But haven't we been down that road about a million times over the years? A Jones-Hopkins rematch just seems destined to never happen.

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4. Juan Manuel Marquez (47-3-1, 35 KOs)


Junior lightweight champion
Hits: Although an infected cut on his knuckle forced Marquez to pull out of a Sept. 15 HBO PPV fight against Rocky Juarez just eight days before the show, the interesting matchup will go on, thanks to Showtime, which came to the rescue and bought the fight for Nov. 3.
Misses: We can't blame Marquez, but he never had a chance to face his Mexican countrymen Erik Morales or Marco Antonio Barrera in their prime. Morales retired in August without ever facing Marquez, and Marquez beat Barrera in March, when Barrera already was on the way out.

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5. Winky Wright (51-4-1, 25 KOs)


Middleweight
Hits: Although clearly at a size disadvantage, Wright didn't use it as an excuse after losing a competitive decision to Hopkins in July. Wright wanted to test himself against the best, as he always has wanted to do. Sure, he came up short, but he's got nothing to be ashamed of.
Misses: Wright is sort of stuck in no man's land, because there is no obvious marquee opponent available for him to fight at 160 or 154. De La Hoya isn't interested, and the rest of the junior middleweight division is pretty desolate. A rematch with Jermain Taylor is out the window for the time being in the wake of his knockout loss to Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik will either face Taylor in a rematch or somebody else early next year, but it won't be Wright. Wright and his handlers are going to have to get a little creative to find him a meaningful fight.

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6. Joe Calzaghe (43-0, 32 KOs)


Super middleweight champion
Hits: Happy anniversary, Joe C. Wales. As of Oct. 11, he's been a champion for 11 consecutive years (covering 21 defenses), the longest reign of any active titleholder. It's an astonishing accomplishment in a sport in which it usually is more difficult to keep your title than it is to win it. He can celebrate his anniversary next month with a win in the biggest fight of his career, Nov. 3 against Kessler, a fellow undefeated titleholder.
Misses: As impressive as Calzaghe's championship longevity is, there have been too many less-than-stellar defenses along the way. Rick Thornberry, Branko Sobot, Will McIntyre or Tocker Pudwill anyone?

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7. Israel Vazquez (42-4, 32 KOs)


Junior featherweight champion
Hits: Who doesn't love a good trilogy? Vazquez and Rafael Marquez, the best new rivalry in boxing, are 1-1 in two fantastic fights, and they are going to do it again to settle matters in early 2008 on Showtime.
Misses: The way he fights, you get the sense that his time at the top isn't going to last long unless he learns a bit more about the finer points of defense.

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8. Rafael Marquez (37-4, 33 KOs)


Junior featherweight
Hits: The former bantamweight champion could have remained at 118 pounds and continued to rack up defenses in a division he dominated. Instead, he finally took the risk of moving up to 122 pounds to face the best, Vazquez. They have split two incredibly exciting fights with a rubber match on tap for early 2008. Without Marquez finally making the move up, we never would have gotten this wonderful rivalry; he needs to be applauded for making it happen.
Misses: He's a little guy, he's 32 and he's coming off a knockout loss to Vazquez in a brutally tough fight. Is the end near?

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9. Miguel Cotto (30-0, 25 KOs)


Welterweight titlist
Hits: Along with Top Rank stablemates Pacquiao, middleweight champion Pavlik and junior bantamweight star Jorge Arce, Cotto is right there as the most exciting fighter in the world. His thrill quotient is off the charts, and he's done nothing but face quality competition for the past several years. He'll do it again Nov. 10, when he faces Shane Mosley in what figures to be a fabulous fight.
Misses: When you fight top opposition, make the fights exciting and keep on winning, what the heck is there to complain about? We could watch Cotto fight all day.

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10. Ricky Hatton (43-0, 31 KOs)


Junior welterweight champion
Hits: Whether you're a Hatton believer or not, one thing can't be argued: The British brawler meant it when he said he wanted to fight in the United States against the best possible opponents. His past three fights have been in America against good opponents (Luis Collazo, Juan Urango and Jose Luis Castillo). It all culminates with his next fight, Dec. 8 in Las Vegas, when he'll lace 'em up against the best fighter in the world, Mayweather.
Misses: Although he won his three U.S. fights, each had some baggage. Many thought he lost to Collazo; the win against Urango was a sloppy, sloppy performance; and, in retrospect, Castillo was obviously a shot fighter.

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The next 10

11. Shane Mosley
12. Kelly Pavlik
13. Oscar De La Hoya
14. Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon
15. Jermain Taylor
16. Joel Casamayor
17. Chris John
18. Mikkel Kessler
19. Juan Diaz
20. Cory Spinks
 

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That list is awful.

Sorry but Hopkins at 3 is too high, Winky is of the top 10 IMHO, and Hatton and Cotto should both leapfrog Vazquez and Marquez.

Heres my list:

1. Floyd
2. Pacman
3.Calzaghe
4.Hatton
5.Cotto
6.JMM
7.Hopkins
8.Mosley
9.Vazquez
10.Marquez
 

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That list is awful.

Sorry but Hopkins at 3 is too high, Winky is of the top 10 IMHO, and Hatton and Cotto should both leapfrog Vazquez and Marquez.

Heres my list:

1. Floyd
2. Pacman
3.Calzaghe
4.Hatton
5.Cotto
6.JMM
7.Hopkins
8.Mosley
9.Vazquez
10.Marquez
 

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i agree, hatton, kessler and cotto all should be higher than bhop, wright and vasquez, marquez. all three of these gusy are undefeated.
 

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Wright and Marquez should have dropped out of the top 10 with their recent losses IMO. Id also have Hopkins in the lower half of the top 10.
 

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Think about it though fellas. Take away the two debatable decisions against Taylor and Hopkins hasn't lost in many, many years. He just beat Winky Wright who is regarded as one of the best P4P guys in boxing.

Mosley is in my top 5.
 

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oh well, the 1st 2 are the only ones i care about and i agree with that. floyd and pac man, and it'll continue to be this way until someone losses.
 

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my list.

floyd
pac
calzaghe
b-hop
hatton
jmm
vasquez
cotto
winky
pavlik.

pavlik is on because he's fought and beat the 2 best fighters in his weight class in his last 2 fights, one was a top tier pound 4 pound fighter.

r marquez, jt, kessler and wlad klit are all near my top 10 too.
 

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why does everyone keep putting Winky on a top P4P. i don't get it! he's lost/drawn to many times to be P4P top 10 best. I mean, id much rather replace him with Pavlik (who not only has beat the best in his weight, but Ko'ed them) or rafa Marquez! or why not Cotto! I like Winky, do i dont think he deserves to be up there.
 

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i agree with that completely, i like winky as a person but as a fighter, ur right, he doesnt belong on that list. the only think p4p about winky is his defense and its been getting cracked alot lately as well.
 

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we have to remember winky is punching above his weight because he's only a natural 154 fighter, he drew with taylor who's a big middle at 160 (most thinhk he was robbed) and narowly lost to hopkins at 170 which is a weight he has no right being at. theres no shame in those fights and if winky moves back to 154 he dominates, he beats everyone at 160 except AA and pavlik to.
 

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yes but p4p is fighters who can go up in weight and win, which winky has proven he can but hasnt of lately , you cant just have someone on your list who goes up in weight and tried to win. Thats not good enough imo.
 

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TysonJones said:
yes but p4p is fighters who can go up in weight and win, which winky has proven he can but hasnt of lately , you cant just have someone on your list who goes up in weight and tried to win. Thats not good enough imo.
pound 4 pound has nothing to do with moving up in weight IMO, id say its the best fighters in boxing regardless of weight.
 
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