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This thread is designed to discuss everything and anything that there is to do with Evander Holyfield. I have a few questions to ask...

  1. Is he a dirty headbutting fighter? You may notice that he headbutts on FIGHT NIGHT: ROUND 3
  2. If he should've retired by now... when do you think he should've retired?
  3. Did he/does he take steroids?
  4. Does he still have what it takes to be World Heavyweight Champion AGAIN?
  5. Was he really that good? I know he beat Tyson Twice... but I still rate Prime Tyson ABOVE HIM!

So yeah... discuss all that there is to do with the 1984 Los Angeles Summer Olympics Bronze Medallist (Light Heavyweight) right here... BYE! :cool:
 

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White Tyson said:
This thread is designed to discuss everything and anything that there is to do with Evander Holyfield. I have a few questions to ask...

  1. Is he a dirty headbutting fighter? You may notice that he headbutts on FIGHT NIGHT: ROUND 3
  2. If he should've retired by now... when do you think he should've retired?
  3. Did he/does he take steroids?
  4. Does he still have what it takes to be World Heavyweight Champion AGAIN?
  5. Was he really that good? I know he beat Tyson Twice... but I still rate Prime Tyson ABOVE HIM!

So yeah... discuss all that there is to do with the 1984 Los Angeles Summer Olympics Bronze Medallist (Light Heavyweight) right here... BYE! :cool:
1. yes evander can be a dirty fighter, he's cut his last 2 opponents with "accidental" headbutts. he also butted tyson for 2 fights, if i was mike id have bitten both his ears off.

2. if the HW division was better id say he should retire but he wants 5 titles and briggs is there to be taken, i see briggs being the only guy holding a strap that evander can beat.

3. i wouldn't accuse him of taken roids, but he did bulk up very fast after moving to HW from cruiser. maybe its possible for him to have dabled. :dunno:

4. yes i think he could win another version of the title, imo he'd outpoint briggs over 12 rounds.

5. yes id say evander was a very good fighter, if he had more power he could have been realy great. he had as much heart and will to win as any HW in history and he was a very good boxer to.
 

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3. i wouldn't accuse him of taken roids, but he did bulk up very fast after moving to HW from cruiser. maybe its possible for him to have dabled. :dunno:
I would say with 90% certainty that evander holyfield has not only dabbled in steroids, but has been a long time human growth hormone user. Just my two cents, coming from someone that has researched this stuff heavily and is a biology major in school studying to go to med school.

To think he is as old as he is being in that kind of physical shape.

When you take steroids they your muscles bigger. The muscle fibers that you were born with become bigger and thicker.

When you take human growth hormone your muscle fibers DIVIDE. Therefore there is an exponential growth in muscle capacity.

Growth hormone does a slew of other things like make internal organs grow (with heavy/long term use) and yes your head does grow your finger tips grow..all your cartilages grow faster as well..

Oh and when you couple steroids with human growth hormones the muscle growth, not the divisions of the fibers , STAYS..which is why barry bonds hasn't shrunken for all of your baseball fans..

Sorry for my rant! But I'm pretty sure he's on growth hormone..

Oh and I called out that sylvestor stallone took growth hormone like 2 years ago and look what happened :)...
 

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1. You're only dirty if you get caught.

2. After his defeat to Larry "The Legend" Donald.

3. I don't guess we will ever know for sure.

4. Nah I think he's done.

5. He had a lot of heart. What he lacked in physical traits he made up with heart. There are definetly lots of HW's I would rank above him but to me he is a living legend.
 

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tommygunn said:
1. yes evander can be a dirty fighter, he's cut his last 2 opponents with "accidental" headbutts. he also butted tyson for 2 fights, if i was mike id have bitten both his ears off.
You heard it here first!:cool:
 

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I would say with 90% certainty that evander holyfield has not only dabbled in steroids, but has been a long time human growth hormone user. Just my two cents, coming from someone that has researched this stuff heavily and is a biology major in school studying to go to med school.

To think he is as old as he is being in that kind of physical shape.

When you take steroids they your muscles bigger. The muscle fibers that you were born with become bigger and thicker.

When you take human growth hormone your muscle fibers DIVIDE. Therefore there is an exponential growth in muscle capacity.

Growth hormone does a slew of other things like make internal organs grow (with heavy/long term use) and yes your head does grow your finger tips grow..all your cartilages grow faster as well..

Oh and when you couple steroids with human growth hormones the muscle growth, not the divisions of the fibers , STAYS..which is why barry bonds hasn't shrunken for all of your baseball fans..

Sorry for my rant! But I'm pretty sure he's on growth hormone..

Oh and I called out that sylvestor stallone took growth hormone like 2 years ago and look what happened :)...
Have you taken Growth Hormones? Have you stacked it GH with gear?

My guess no. But you seem to know everything.

Evander is not even big. Why you would call him our for GH is beyond me. He could of obtained that naturally or with gear, or with GH & Gear. You get nothing from use of GH by itself.
 

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Mundine_fan said:
Have you taken Growth Hormones? Have you stacked it GH with gear?

My guess no. But you seem to know everything.

Evander is not even big. Why you would call him our for GH is beyond me. He could of obtained that naturally or with gear, or with GH & Gear. You get nothing from use of GH by itself.
If this is true then what's the point? Evander was great and I saw him fight in Dallas not too long ago and he looked great. We'll see how it outfolds.
 

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Take all the HGH you want, it still won't give you heart. All those bombs that have been dropped on his head and he took them and gave them right back. I couldn't ask for more. It didn't help vargas when he fought dlh. As weak as the hvys are he has a good a chance as any to win a belt. I'd like to see him retire though.
 

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PrettyBoyFloyd said:
If this is true then what's the point? Evander was great and I saw him fight in Dallas not too long ago and he looked great. We'll see how it outfolds.

HGH is taken to get big, its what seperates the bodybuilders from you massive monster pro bodybuilders.

It creates new muscle cells. Which by itself makes no real difference. Add gear with it and it gives you better gains on your cycle. Gear will make the muscle cells increase in size but not duplicate. HGH will make new cells and gear will make them bigger.
 

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I'm all about the all natural physical specimens who are naturally built like rocks and not the muscled up users. Is there any current testing in boxing? I know there are no tests for HGH but what about the rest?
 

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Have you taken Growth Hormones? Have you stacked it GH with gear?

My guess no. But you seem to know everything.

Evander is not even big. Why you would call him our for GH is beyond me. He could of obtained that naturally or with gear, or with GH & Gear. You get nothing from use of GH by itself.
And I'm guessing that you don't really know much either. Growth hormone can be taken by itself and you will notice muscular enhancement. My guess is that you've taken a couple cycles so you think you know.
When you're muscle fibers divide you're muscle has an exponentially increasing potential for growth with or without "GEAR" haha.

I'm done w/ this post.
 

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PrettyBoyFloyd said:
I'm all about the all natural physical specimens who are naturally built like rocks and not the muscled up users. Is there any current testing in boxing? I know there are no tests for HGH but what about the rest?
I'm pretty sure there are tests, its just that growth hormone isn't traceable. Most steroids mimic testosterone and deal with testosterone related receptors. Growth hormone doesn't deal with those receptors.
 

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And I'm guessing that you don't really know much either. Growth hormone can be taken by itself and you will notice muscular enhancement. My guess is that you've taken a couple cycles so you think you know.
When you're muscle fibers divide you're muscle has an exponentially increasing potential for growth with or without "GEAR" haha.

I'm done w/ this post.
Is this about this so called "gear" or about Evander Holyfield?
 

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And I'm guessing that you don't really know much either. Growth hormone can be taken by itself and you will notice muscular enhancement. My guess is that you've taken a couple cycles so you think you know.
When you're muscle fibers divide you're muscle has an exponentially increasing potential for growth with or without "GEAR" haha.

I'm done w/ this post.
And you know from experience. The gain you get from HGH is nothing, maybe 1kg here and there, but nothing spectacular. HGH by itself is useless and a waste of money.

Any bodybuilder pro or not will tell you that.
 

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No, eper3z I wasn't talking to you bro. You just commented on what someone else brought up. I was just stating that the thread was intended to be about Holyfield not roids. And WTF is GEAR? I'm guessing its austrailian for roids? And I am not mocking Austrailia at all, just wondering.
 

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HGH is taken to get big, its what seperates the bodybuilders from you massive monster pro bodybuilders.
Here's another ignorant comment when clearly anyone that knows anything about HGH knows that not only bodybuilder take it. Many actors take it to stay fit and "young" because growth hormone also burns fat overtime.
(i.e. anna nicole smith - hgh user)

Ok, I'm done now :)
 

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PrettyBoyFloyd said:
No, eper3z I wasn't talking to you bro. You just commented on what someone else brought up. I was just stating that the thread was intended to be about Holyfield not roids. And WTF is GEAR? I'm guessing its austrailian for roids? And I am not mocking Austrailia at all, just wondering.
right on homie :thumbsup:
 
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