[Sonny Liston]

This thread has two questions! ("203 Posts" 203cm = 6'8" inches tall in height)

One...

Do they still have 15 Round Fights anymore? Or are they all 12? Why did they go from 15 Rounds to 12 Rounds AND in what year was this established?

Two...

What was the lowest you could weigh in The Heavyweight Division? Wasn't it at one stage 190lbs? Why and when did they increase it to 201lbs.?:cheeky4:

 

[The Auctioneer]

15 to 12 rounds made it eaiser to televise because of time and commercial constraints,When ,was mid 80's I think?,not sure of the exact date.Cruiser wgt.was created so real heavies could be 201 plus.....

 

[Sonny Liston]

15 to 12 rounds made it eaiser to televise because of time and commercial constraints,When ,was mid 80's I think?,not sure of the exact date.Cruiser wgt.was created so real heavies could be 201 plus.....

THANKS MAN... I really appreciate it!!!

 

[bill1234]

I really wnat the 15 rounders to come back, its just that so many of the fighters are out of shape and you think they are queer for how much they hug. NO uffence to anyone who s queer and reading this.

 

[Sonny Liston]

I really wnat the 15 rounders to come back, its just that so many of the fighters are out of shape and you think they are queer for how much they hug. NO uffence to anyone who s queer and reading this.

I reckon 15 rounds really should come back! I know that I'm not a Professional Boxer myself but 12 Rounds... for some reason... doesn't sound like too much! An extra 3 rounds would really make it sound like a contest!!!

 

[bill1234]

Well for one thing there wouldn't be as many draws, If they are going to decrease the amount of rounds, they could have at least made it an odd number like 13. I like 15 rounders though.

 

[Sonny Liston]

Well for one thing there wouldn't be as many draws, If they are going to decrease the amount of rounds, they could have at least made it an odd number like 13. I like 15 rounders though.

That's a good question! How many known draws have there been in 15 Round Matches when compared the the known draws in 12 round matches? I know 15 round matches have been around for a lot longer but what would be the Aggregate?

 

[bill1234]

There weren't many draws in the 15 round fights because 1, its an odd number, 2, to get a draw someone needs to be knocked down or a point gets taken away. And that would only make it adraw if one of those to things happened to the guy that was winning.

 

[Sonny Liston]

There weren't many draws in the 15 round fights because 1, its an odd number, 2, to get a draw someone needs to be knocked down or a point gets taken away. And that would only make it adraw if one of those to things happened to the guy that was winning.

With that said... 15 rounds should really come back! Not only will it show who the best boxers really are by going the full 15 rounds... but it was greatly limit the number of draws! Also... if there are draws in 15 Round Fights... THEY'D BE GOOD FIGHTS!!!

 

[bill1234]

Exactly, they only switched to 12 rounds because the newer fighters couldn't handle it and they are winded after 4 rounds. They also switched it because in the late 80's I can't think of his name right now killed somebody in the 15th round, but that is a bogus acuzation because that is the refs fault. It was either Mancini, or Camacho that killed the person.

 

[Sonny Liston]

Exactly, they only switched to 12 rounds because the newer fighters couldn't handle it and they are winded after 4 rounds. They also switched it because in the late 80's I can't think of his name right now killed somebody in the 15th round, but that is a bogus acuzation because that is the refs fault. It was either Mancini, or Camacho that killed the person.

"When would you say this breed of "new fighters" came in???"

 

[bill1234]

The mid 90's.

 

[niko]

There weren't many draws in the 15 round fights because 1, its an odd number, 2, to get a draw someone needs to be knocked down or a point gets taken away. And that would only make it adraw if one of those to things happened to the guy that was winning.

Some rounds are also scored even.
You know I really think alot of rounds look even,I don't see one guy really winning a round.Way back when, a champion really had to lose convincingly to lose his title.
Undisputed championship fights IMO should be 15 rounds.

 

[ERIK]

I really wnat the 15 rounders to come back, its just that so many of the fighters are out of shape and you think they are queer for how much they hug. NO uffence to anyone who s queer and reading this.

I think the change to 12 rounders also may be for safety reasons. Tryin to eliminate the injuries & deaths in boxing.

 

[niko]

What was the lowest you could weigh in The Heavyweight Division? Wasn't it at one stage 190lbs? Why and when did they increase it to 201lbs.?:cheeky4:

The heavyweight division is unlimited,You can weigh what you want.When Fitzsimmons won the heavy title from Corbett I believe he was less than 170 lbs.

 

[bill1234]

I think the change to 12 rounders also may be for safety reasons. Tryin to eliminate the injuries & deaths in boxing.

They should get better refs then. If you get a good ref, then no one will die...

 

[Sonny Liston]

They should get better refs then. If you get a good ref, then no one will die...

I couldn't agree more!

 

[Kameleon]

I think fights should stay at 12 rounds unless they are title fight, then go to 15. No one wants to watch a title fight go to a decision and in 15 rounds you should have a clear winner. :thumbsup:

 

[bill1234]

I agree, and if it is a draw in a 12 rounder, it should go an extra round.

 

[JCC]

15 to 12 rounds made it eaiser to televise because of time and commercial constraints, When ,was mid 80's I think?,not sure of the exact date.Cruiser wgt.was created so real heavies could be 201 plus.....

In both cases as for the changes ... it was all about money, and nothing else, and as for the reason the cruiser weight division was created wasn't just so heavies could be 201 plus .. for they could be that even before the adding of another weight division. It was all about money, not weight!

The heavyweights of today, are all creations of shrewd promoters ... and more belts means to be able to promote more championship fights ... and promoters to make more money, that was the real reason for the adding of the Cruiser weight division as well as all the many other weight divisions that were also created and added. It was all about money, and nothing else.

Of course, nothing wrong with wanting to make money. But when the focus comes to be more on making money than developing talented fighters ... it hurts the sport of boxing, because fans begin to lose interest in it.

And this is why boxing has been on the down swing for some years now, and why many fans have lose interest in it.

But I keep hoping boxing will come back to its former glory, but I'm not sure it ever will again.

JC