He's in pretty good shape acctually. He looks a little heavier than he was against Butterbean. He's about 270, take some of the fat away, about 230. He's in shape, but not in fighting shape. He is still faster than 80% of the heavyweights now, but he lost some power. Still, you know it when he hits the heavybag. You here "THUD" along with a loud grunt. You look over, and the bag is flying somewhere or other.Rayman said:Wow, I can't believe he's that old. What kind of shape is he in overall?
He's not punch drunk, but his eyes are a little puffy, and his thumb is still screwed up from breaking it on Roy "Tiger" Williams forehead in 1976, the heavybag twice in 1976 and 1992, and on Micheal Spinks elbow in the rematch. He'll only fight Foreman now, or anyone who starts running there mouth in the gym and wants to spar that is anygood. He already KO'd a guy with a jab who is currently 9-1 in the pros.LeedsLad said:is he punch drunk at all bill? Considering a comeback at all?
Charisma goes a long way in boxing. If Larry was before Ali, and had Ali's charisma, they would say he was the greatest and shun Ali.PrettyBoyFloyd said:Sadly, no matter what he did nobody would ever call him the greatest. The greatest overlooked heavyweight? Yes.
I disagree. Ali had a different style that was appreciated more than Holmes' style.bill1234 said:Charisma goes a long way in boxing. If Larry was before Ali, and had Ali's charisma, they would say he was the greatest and shun Ali.
The main difference is Holmes went to the body more, and didn't show boat. Ali only went to the head, was a fraction quicker, but didn't hit as hard.PrettyBoyFloyd said:I disagree. Ali had a different style that was appreciated more than Holmes' style.