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"these are the same people who 4 or 5 years ago were saying i was a over-hyped over-protected fraud.

"then i go and beat vince phillips more convincingly than sharmba mitchell-the number 1 contender to kostya tszyu.

"next on the agenda i cant box for ****. im just a brawler. so i go out and box ben takies head off and that shuts them up for a few months.

"but then im nothing more than just a ticket seller who doesnt want the big fights, even though i made it publicly clear that its me promoter who who's not getting me the fights.

"then they call me "ricky fatton" and tell me kostya tszyu will knock my block off and that i dont stand a hope in hell's chance.

"then its i wont leave manchester and britain and that i wont fight in america.

"then its back to the overhyped fraud and nothing more than a brawler.

" to be honest i sit there and laugh my bloody arse off at it sometimes. look what ive done-6 world titles at 2 weights, beat an alltime great and topped the bill at las vegas.

"long may it continue to be honest. ricky hatton just uses it as motivation and a prety good laugh aswell.

"well youv'e got to break it down.

"with kostya tszyu i wasn't prepared to load up all the time beacause i knew if he caught me with a quick hook or counter hook he could have me on my backside, or if he stepped back and landed that right he could hjave knocked me sparko with the double inpact as i was loading up.

"you saw the fight, it was about closing the gap fast, it was about sticking to him. id been waiting for that moment all me life so i wasn't going to let me heart rule me head and mess it up. i couldnt let him extened the right elbow or because then id be sparked!

"with carlos maussa, obviously, you saw the fight. you saw the guy. he was very-very awquard, a swithch hitter, rangy, gangly, punching at odd angles.

"again i used my head. id been saying in the buildup to the fight that i was going to go for the body, but did that to decieve him because i didn't and we'd worked on the leaping hook to the head because on tapes we'd seen how he left his chin in the air when he pulled back.

"so again, perfect.

"with me last 2 fights, how can you look good against them? southpawes, difficult styles.

"(luis) collazo was quick and tricky and threw punches from the waist that you dont seen comming.

"while (juan) urango had the peak-a-book defence and your punches just bounced off him!

"plus going up and down weight like a yo-yo and fighting overseas, i think i deserve all the credit in the world and ive already acheived beyond my wildest dreams to be honest.

"when i go toe to toe with one of mexicos greats and come out on top, the critics can put in there pipe and smoke it just like they have done everything else ricky the hitman hatton's done."
 

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I dont see him talking about his alcohol or weight problems.
 

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prettyboywho said:
I dont see him talking about his alcohol or weight problems.
to all new members and guys who are new to boxing, the post above is the kind off stuff that ricky is talking about laughing his arse off at. :cool:
 

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sliznut said:
Literally.
tsk, tsk, haters are what ricky thrives on!!
 

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haha just joking. I will make a deal with you tommy. Depending on how the mosely vs collazo fight goes we will both change our position on hatton.

Meaning if Mosley destroys Collazo you must admit Hatton is overrated. But if Collazo wins then I must say that Hatton is better than I gave him credit for. Deal?
 

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sliznut said:
haha just joking. I will make a deal with you tommy. Depending on how the mosely vs collazo fight goes we will both change our position on hatton.

Meaning if Mosley destroys Collazo you must admit Hatton is overrated. But if Collazo wins then I must say that Hatton is better than I gave him credit for. Deal?
ill go for that, hatton wasn't a 147 guy though mosely is.
 

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True Mosley does have the advantage. But if the fight is close and Mosley still wins then I would still say I wasn't giving Hatton the respect he deserves.
 

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True Mosley does have the advantage. But if the fight is close and Mosley still wins then I would still say I wasn't giving Hatton the respect he deserves.
obviously if shane goes in and blows collazo away in 2 rounds hattons win will be flawed but i just cant see this happening, i actualy think collazo has the tools to win this fight.

ill give ssm the edge in pop but collazo looks to have a very good chin, ssm has slowed a bit too and that was his main atribute, where id say collazo aint that much slower than him now, collazo definatly has the stamina edge though he can fight 3mins a round for 12 rounds, but i dont think ssm can now.
 

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Yea thats a pretty good evaluation of the fight. It will be interesting to see what Shane has left. He is definetly slower but I wonder how much slower. Yea if the fight goes long Shane will start getting pretty tired. The late rounds could be the ones that Collazo can pick up and win the fight.
 

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Yea thats a pretty good evaluation of the fight. It will be interesting to see what Shane has left. He is definetly slower but I wonder how much slower. Yea if the fight goes long Shane will start getting pretty tired. The late rounds could be the ones that Collazo can pick up and win the fight.
to be honest im not convinced ssm has much left he looked like crap twice against winky, and the first fight with vargas he would have lost in my book if it wasnt for the swelling to vargas eye, i thought the fight was prety even with vargas looking a lot stronger when the fight was stopped. the second time they fought vargas never showed up and he's always been a bit chinny so im not reading to much into that win for ssm. ive always been a huge ssm fan but the move back down to 147 some how doesnt look like a good idea for shane at this point in his carrer. i think if he stayed with his first plan at 147 and fought cintron he could have won that fight but i hold collazo in higher regard with his win over rivera and his close fight with hatton.
 

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To everyone who knows anything about boxing. We know that Hatton wont be laughing to much when all of this stuff catches up with him. And it will catch up with him. Just like t did every other fighter.
 

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To everyone who knows anything about boxing. We know that Hatton wont be laughing to much when all of this stuff catches up with him. And it will catch up with him. Just like t did every other fighter.
oh yeah, well im sure it wont be your boy cotto who catches up with him anyway he's dodged about 3 offers from hatton the first time he was at 140. now thats what i call ducking.

man cotto had his hands full with pillow puncher maggliwateverhisnameis and was rocked by him and his pitifull 5ko's.
 

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Mosley v Collazo

I pick Mosley over Collazo but I think it will be close. Collazo is no joke and he was a very strong finisher v Hatton, which could be interesting as like u said Sugar Shane may not have the full 12 rounds in him no more. Ricky underperformed v Collazo everyone knows that, but his preperation wasnt good and it were his debut at welter. Not everyone has set the world alight in their debut fight in a new weight, e.g De la Hoya at middleweight v Felix Sturm.
 

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I pick Mosley over Collazo but I think it will be close. Collazo is no joke and he was a very strong finisher v Hatton, which could be interesting as like u said Sugar Shane may not have the full 12 rounds in him no more. Ricky underperformed v Collazo everyone knows that, but his preperation wasnt good and it were his debut at welter. Not everyone has set the world alight in their debut fight in a new weight, e.g De la Hoya at middleweight v Felix Sturm.
good points dude and welcome.

as ive said ive always been a huge fan of ssm but the twice ive seen collazo against rivera and hatton he's been unbelevible, this guy refuses to lose and has showed great heart and skill, if shane was 5 years younger and the fight was at 135 i would have said yes but on his rescent form and the age he's at i dont think so.
 

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the hard thing about this fight is that most people look at Shane's win over Vargas as opposed to the strugle he had with soft punching Estrada .I think collazo hits harder but is not as busy but probably has better technique so it is going to be an interesting fight and closer then it looks on paper now for Shane the speed advatage will count but I am not sure how long he can go before having to trade with Luis.And that will expose how much Shane has left the second thing that goes on an older fighter. ( look at Morales)<<
 

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I would love nothing more than to see Kostya Tszyu get another shot at Ricky Hatton and knock him out flat on his ass in the first minute of the first round... that... alone... would make me a very happy man in the cruel bitter world of boxing! :D
 

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I would love nothing more than to see Kostya Tszyu get another shot at Ricky Hatton and knock him out flat on his ass in the first minute of the first round... that... alone... would make me a very happy man in the cruel bitter world of boxing! :D
put the whisky down man.

kostya has hinted strongly at a return in the near future but im not sure if he plans on moving to 147 SO HE CAN AVOID HATTON AND KO GAYWEATHER.
 

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White Tyson said:
I would love nothing more than to see Kostya Tszyu get another shot at Ricky Hatton and knock him out flat on his ass in the first minute of the first round... that... alone... would make me a very happy man in the cruel bitter world of boxing!
What Hatton did to Tszyu was kind of impressive, even if it wasn't aesthetically pleasing.

Hatton seemed to have out muscled, and outfought, and out toughed one of better fighters of the era and wrestled away the world title in the process.

But some say that Hatton in being the way he is, isn't likely going to be on top for a very long time, and the junior welterweight divison seems to have somes guys who make for worthy challengers --- Jose Luis Castilo, Junior Witter, and Vivian Harris to name a few.

Some say maybe even Diego Corrales too in the near future.

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When Mosley fought Estrada I was very impressed with the work rate and power Estrada showed he is a crafty guy but has no power he did gave Mosley trouble but could not close the show. Collazo may have more power and be a better boxer then Estrada this should be a good fight I am honestly surprise Shane would take it it is low on the risk to regard factor I would have though that he would try an avenge the loss to Forest since he has looked very poorly as of late or maybe Entice an aging Trinidad out of retirement and have a mega fight. I am just saying that although I have never been a fan of Mosley's style he is doing the right things for boxing and conducting himself like a fighter .
 
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