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Anyone ever done this? I did this tonight and was wondering what the hell I am doing:laugh: I was just hauling off and hitting it by bringing it from around my back and slamming it down. I did this for four or five one min rounds. Does any1 know any techniques or workouts with this? Ifelt it in my arms and left side of my back. Oh and it was fun as hell:D
 

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i know ernie shavers did this and man it worked.

danny williams has done this for years to.
 

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but what exactly does it do and how should i do it?:dunno:
 

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basicly lay your hands on the heavyest hammer you can get and just abuse the tyre. these guys swear they hit harder after doing this. theres nothing realy more i can tell you mate.

if you google ernie shavers im sure you'll be able to find out what he did. :thumbsup:
 

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Texas Tyrant said:
Thanks tommy! I found some info here it is for any1 who is interested. He says he hit a truck tire for half an hour
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let us know how you get on with it then bud. :thumbsup:
 

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It simulates wood chopping, which is a great full body workout.

Maker sure you rotate grips, and bring the hammer around from "both sides" (not at once, obviously) and you'll balance out that feeling in your back.

Check this website for other excellent training advice and fitness routines using simple equipment and everyday items:

Your Top Source For Free Boxing Training Advice
 

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Jetcar said:
It simulates wood chopping, which is a great full body workout.

Maker sure you rotate grips, and bring the hammer around from "both sides" (not at once, obviously) and you'll balance out that feeling in your back.
Only, if a person's a boxer. I would warn against doing too much of any thing, that would make you musclebound.

Being musclebound isn't good for a boxer.

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Check this website for other excellent training advice and fitness routines using simple equipment and everyday items:

Your Top Source For Free Boxing Training Advice
I did check it out!

This guy perscribes lifting weights to boxers.

Mostly only trainers that have never boxed, or wanna be boxers who were unsuccessful perscribe lifting weights to boxers.

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JCC said:
Only, if a person's a boxer. I would warn against doing too much of any thing, that would make you musclebound.

Being musclebound isn't good for a boxer.



I did check it out!

This guy perscribes lifting weights to boxers.

Mostly only trainers that have never boxed, or wanna be boxers who were unsuccessful perscribe lifting weights to boxers.

JJC
Here's a quote from his website, in case you missed it:

I have a sincere interest in helping fellow athletes in their quest for greatness. I created this site to help fuel my love for the sport of boxing. I have been involved in the sport as both an athlete and coach for most of my life. I boxed in the amateurs for over a decade...

Also, lots of the fighters who train in big bear use the wood chopping as part of their training, and they don't get muscle bound from doing so. (the trick is to use an 8-12lb axe (or sledgehammer, if hitting the tire)...after countless reps, you develop the lean, strong and flexible physique while increasing power and stamina and cardivascular resistance.

He has lots of other dynamic and resistance excercises on his site as well. Lots of very sound fitness advice that doesn't revolve around weights, too. I ignore his weight-lifting advice, myself.

But I do like the rope climbing, that always gets some looks from my neighbours... lol
 

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Jetcar said:
Here's a quote from his website, in case you missed it:

I have a sincere interest in helping fellow athletes in their quest for greatness. I created this site to help fuel my love for the sport of boxing. I have been involved in the sport as both an athlete and coach for most of my life. I boxed in the amateurs for over a decade...
Thanks, but I didn't miss it! I read it!

Its just that I may not had been near as impressed as you apparently were.

It would seen there are a million people out there like this person today with physical fitness web sites on the NET.

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JCC said:
Thanks, but I didn't miss it! I read it!

Its just that I may not had been near as impressed as you apparently were.


JJC
I wasn't impressed, but you called him a "wannabee", so I figured that a decade in the amateur ranks might have meant something.

Apparently to you, it doesn't.

Oh well. :dunno:
 

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Jetcar said:
I wasn't impressed, but you called him a "wannabee", so I figured that a decade in the amateur ranks might have meant something.

Apparently to you, it doesn't.
There are a lot of mickey mouse web sites on the Internet today where there are people claiming all kinds of stuff, and saying stuff. When it comes to boxing it doesn't take me long to know if a guy has really been there, and if he knows what he's talking about. ;)

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JCC said:
There are a lot of mickey mouse web sites on the Internet today where there are people claiming all kinds of stuff, and saying stuff. When it comes to boxing it doesn't take me long to know if a guy has really been there, and if he knows what he's talking about. ;)

JJC
...can't wait to see your website, then.
 

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...can't wait to see your website, then.
I've never had any interest in having my own web site.

But in hope that you might not misunderstand what I'm saying.

I don't knock the physical fitness web sites out there for whatever the reasons some people have them whether it be for profit or just for fun, or whatever?

But boxing is my sport, and I've been very disappointed in the boxing scene for seemingly a long time now.

I'd like to see it come back as a sport, as it used to be. At one time it was the most popular sport and second to only baseball and had use to attract the most talented Amercian athletes.

I'd like to see it come back as a sport!

But I can't see that happening as long as it remains as it is now.

We got guys out there now that are calling themselves trainers for boxers that have never boxed, and also guys who had spent little time there as boxers, or that were unsuccessful in boxing out there trying to tell others how to be successful boxing and often for a fee of course that don't really know any thing.

And I've come now to just express my veiws now about it is all. (smiling)

As for training for boxers how I know how good the training is, is by what it produces?

So many of the preformances today produces little exciting action any more and few fans have interest it any more for reasons of it.

And as for the professional ranks it come to now be more just a show now that's all, and as for most fight fans today, the thrill is gone for reasons of so many mediocre performances.

But of course, there are some fans that just love boxing no matter if its mediocre.

In the other hand, for some if they were to get use to just watching just a bunch of mediore performances when you'd eventually dis come to see a half way decent fight you watch you might would think it was the greatest in history, you see.

As for the some so-called modern day training for boxers being perscribed for example, lifting weights is mostly only by trainers that have never boxed, and wanna be boxers, or guys that may had spent a little time there and weren't successful.

The so-called modern day training for boxers today, is not producing as well-conditioned athletes for example, as it had in what many consider to be Boxings Golden Era (1940s-1980s).

To the untrained eye things can look one way, but to the trained eye it looks another way. I hope you are understanding what I'm trying to say.

If a guys wanting to be a good or great fighter today, he needs to go learn how the greats like such stars as Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Rocky Marciano, Muhummed Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Billy Conn, Gus Lesnevich, Joey Maxin, Archie Moore, D-ick Tiger, Bob Foster, Sugar Ray Robinson, Tony Zale, Carmen Basilion Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Henry Armstrong, Wille Pep, Sandy Saddler, Roberto Duran, and Alexis Argello to mention just a few trained.

In fact, there's a book out today, only I don't remember the title of it, but its a book about how the great champions in boxing trained.

If I was a youngster today and was wanting to learn to box and to be a champion I would go learn how the greats trained and that's the way I would train.

If you want to emulate somebody, better to emulate some body who was great and successful.

As for the boxing scene today, other than Hopkins I only see one other outstanding figher out there and it Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Many consider Mayweather to be the best performer pound-per-pound of any boxer out there today.


However, Mayweather is another product of these modern-day watered-down boxing organizations and weight-classes, and cannot come close to challenging the grest Sugar Ray Robinson for the distinction of being the best fighter pound-per-pound in the history of the sport.

And as for the heavyweights today, that call themselves champions they are nothing more than just simply creations of shrewd promoters, formost of which is the shady manioulator Don King, wearing an assortment of belts that have been established more for the purpose of making money than developing talented fighters.

And as for training, I would encourage youngsters to not emulate those guys out there today, but to go learn about the greats of our sport and do the things they did and they'll be better fighters.

How I know how good the training is, is by what it produces?

JJC
 

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Your last past sounds like a pretty good basis for a web site of your own.

Grass roots movement type of thing, you know... how the business of boxing has impacted its' participants. Of how it struggles to survive in an expanding market of consumer choices, competing for the same disposable income...
 

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Jetcar said:
Your last past sounds like a pretty good basis for a web site of your own.

Grass roots movement type of thing, you know... how the business of boxing has impacted its' participants. Of how it struggles to survive in an expanding market of consumer choices, competing for the same disposable income...
Yes, there are many more things out there today that competes for the publics attention and there are by far more sports also out their today that competes for peoples attention.

I'am an optimist, but also a realist.

The sport of boxing has been on the down swing for years, its been heading in that direction slowly since the 1960s. The only thing that really drew much attention really or largely was Muhummed Ali. And after Ali, it died. And came to draw even less attention as a sport.

Promoters use other things today to stir up the fans and to draw money, crowds and attention for reasons of the lack of talent in boxing today.

The put on the glitz and the big shows to draw money, crowds and attention in hope of making up for all the mediocre performances to make money.

I know of one boxing promoter now that has even gone to promoting free style fighting, a mixture of martial arts thing, in hopes to make money.

As for the problems I see in the sport of boxing today, the real problems with it appear to me to be built in, and I'm not so sure its even reversible.

Boxing as a sport today, is rapidly coming to be a kind of second class, if even that maybe even a kind of third or fourth class sport that is now dead in the water.

The most talented of Amercian athetes are no longer drawn to it, and its been that way for a long time now.

Even if you were to take amatuer boxing now for example, it use to draw by far more money, crowds and attention.

But now so few turn out to watch the annual golden gloves touraments any more these days, and for that reason the annual golden gloves touraments here are no longer held in the prestious arenas any more, and now receives little or not press coverage at all. It didn't use to not be like that!

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Floyd mayweather is a great fighter, but honestly we dont know how he would perform against ray robinson, and we wont ever. i consider mayweather to be superior in technical skills, whereas sugar ray had a legendary chin, and combined strength and speed that was probably the greatest in history. it would be a great match in my opinion.

but thats not true what you said about the golden gloves tournaments... the golden gloves in new york are a huge event. the finals are held in madison square garden and when i go every year, for the most part its packed with people spectating.
 

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Thats not true what you said about the golden gloves tournaments... the golden gloves in new york are a huge event.
Wasn't talking about New York City!

I was talking about here in Texas the local Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex area where I live.

Some years ago the annual golden gloves touraments recieved much local press coverage and was very popular here and would draw crowds and attention.

But when the rules and regulations changed and they started being required to wear head gear in amatuer boxing to reduce risk of injury, attendance dropped off by more than half, and the annual golden gloves touraments were then moved to by far less prestious arenas, and all local press coverage also stopped.

Amatuer boxing has changed a lot from what it use to be when I was there.

It's been softened a lot by changes in rules and regulations to reduce the risk of injuries such a now being required to wear head gear, and to now wear bigger gloves.

I'd say that's all is very good, for it has reduced the risk of injury.

But at the same time that is all caused many to no longer to have any interest in attending the annual golden gloves touraments here any more.

In past years the the annual golden gloves touraments here use to be held at the Will Rogers Coliseum here in Fort Worth, Texas.

But after change in the rules and regulations some years ago, and they first started being required to wear head gear attendance to the annual golden gloves touraments dropped by more than half, that's when it was moved to smaller and less prestigous places here, and local press coverage stopped.

JJC
 

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Kyle said:
Yea I wish boxing were more popular. You guys use big words.
LOL, sometimes you have to sort of figure it out by the way the words are used. I don't mean to brag, but I have an all right vocabulary so I usually don't have to much trouble.
 
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