[bill1234]

If you are in school are you one of the athletic kids or average or haven't how do I say this"found" your sport yet? If you are out of school how athletic were you compared to everyone else? I am in school and am about a 7-8 out of 10 in atleticism (10 being the best atlete 5 being average, and 1 being you suck lol)

 

[TommyGunn]

im very athletic for my size, im 6,3-6,4 and weigh around 238lbs, its the fitest i think ive ever been id say prob 8 outa 10, if i can keep my weight down around the 240 mark im happy but have a weakness for a beer or 2, i also play a lot of soccer.

 

[Captainobvious]

Well, if I would hit the weights more, like Im starting to now, Id be a little better off, but overall i'd say about a 7 out of 10. I play alot of basketball, and football on weekends. Im a 6'2" guard on the court, and I play wide receiver and corner on the field, so I guess im pretty athletic.

 

[bill1234]

Anyone else feel like answering? Or is this the kind of thread that slowly gets moved to the back?

 

[JCC]

Anyone else feel like answering? Or is this the kind of thread that slowly gets moved to the back?

Gee, I can't remember a time really in my life that I wasn't very athlete.

Took up boxing at such a very young age in the gym at age 9, but different perhaps than a lot of other people who are also very athletic I never had really much interest in any other sports but boxing, it was my life.

As for physical conditioning, I guess it could be said that I've been a kind of conditioning freak my whole life and still to this day now (at age 55).

There is nothing that makes me feel better than a good workout daily, its a habit I developed over a period of doing for many years.

I always feel great after a really good workout.

As for physical exercises, I still get out and run a couple of miles every day, and will work out for at least an hour every day, doing what could be called hard or intense calisthenics, and stretching exercises.

Also resistence exercises, only not resistence forms of exercises that involves that of lifting weights or use of resistence machines. I've never see that as being the best way to train, and I've long since believed it was over rated.

It was drilled into my head many years ago by the old pro fight trainers since the time I was a kid, that lifting weights isn't for boxers and can ruin a fighter.

This is much the reason I have never had any interest in lifting weights.

Only, reason I mention that is because lifting weights have come to be the most common form of exercise today, and I always hear so many people to talk about their lifting weights to get in shape.

The old school produced the greatest boxers and athletics in my veiw, and how I know how good physical training is, is by what it produces.

I always believe the old school produced the best professional athletes.

JC

 

[bill1234]

Gee, I can't remember a time really in my life that I was very athlete.

Take up boxing at such a very young age in the gym at age 9, but different perhaps than a lot of other people who are also very athletic I never had really much interest in any other sports but boxing, it was my life.

As for physical conditioning, I guess it could be said that I've been a kind of conditioning freak my whole life and still to this day now (at age 55).

There is nothing that makes me feel better than a good workout daily, its a habit I developed on a period of doing over many years.

I always feel great after a really good workout.

As for physical exercises, I still get out and run a couple of miles every day, and will work out for at least an hour every day, doing what could be called hard or intense calisthenics, and stretching exercises.

Also resistence exercises, only not resistence forms of exercises that involves that of lifting weights or use of resistence machines. I've never see that as being the best way to train, and I've long since believed it was over rated.

It was drilled into my head many years ago by the old pro fight trainers since the time I was a kid, that lifting weights isn't for boxers and can ruin a fighter.

This is much the reason I have never had any interest in lifting weights.

Only, reason I mention that is because lifting weights have come to be the most common form of exercise today, and I always hear so many people to talk about their lifting weights to get in shape.

The old school produced the greatest boxers and athletics in my veiw, and how I know how good physical training is, is by what it produces.

I always believe the old school produced the best professional athletes.

JC

The old school, hard core way did make the best athletes. Look now what the fighters are now-a-days, then compare them to the fighters of the mid 80's and further back.

 

[Sonny Liston]

I'd like to think that I'm a lot more athletic than people give me credit for. But then I think to myself that a 34 Inch Waist, and the simple fact that although I can bench almost 300 lbs. yet can hardly do many sit-ups, push-ups, chin-ups... as well as run very fast for a long amount of time... and have flabbiness and can't always keep myself moving on a consistent basis... and breath heavy easy... goddamn me!

 

[bill1234]

I'd like to think that I'm a lot more athletic than people give me credit for. But then I think to myself that a 34 Inch Waist, and the simple fact that although I can bench almost 300 lbs. yet can hardly do many sit-ups, push-ups, chin-ups... as well as run very fast for a long amount of time... and have flabbiness and can't always keep myself moving on a consistent basis... and breath heavy easy... goddamn me!

LOL, that a lot of counts against your 2 really good things lol.

 

[JCC]

I'd like to think that I'm a lot more athletic than people give me credit for.

But then I think to myself that a 34 Inch Waist, and the simple fact that although I can bench almost 300 lbs. yet can hardly do many sit-ups, push-ups, chin-ups... as well as run very fast for a long amount of time... and have flabbiness and can't always keep myself moving on a consistent basis... and breath heavy easy...

It seems I remember reading a recent post of yours in which you mentioned that your planning on take up boxing and your wanting to box in competition.

I took that to mean you have interest in becoming an amatuer boxer.

Not sure your age? But if your a youngster? I would encouage you to do so. Its a great fitness and confidence builder.

Perhaps you may have read enough of my posts now. That is, if you have read many of my posts. You know that I'm not an advocate of lifting weights, and especially not for boxers.

Of course, I'm a an older man now in my mid 50s. I'm not boxing any more but I still put myself in the gym daily to workout just to keep in shape, and I think I am in pretty good shape for an old guy.

You mentioned "pushups", for example, I can get down and do 100 pushups fairly easily without a problem.

But there are different kinds of strengths.

As for what you mentioned about lifting weights.

I'm sure their are a lot of guys that are strong who lift weights may could bench press 400 pounds, that maybe would have much difficulty even doing 40-50 pushups if even that many without tiring.

Like I said there are different kinds of strengths and as for the kind of strength you have is going to depend much on the type of physical training you have learned to do and that you chose to do.

Also I'd like to say that as for the overall health and physical fitness thing today, it come to be a really big business, and naturally you going to have people out there trying to sell you stuff as in near all types of business stuff that you don't really need.

By the way, I'd just like to add that I've enjoyed reading you posts. Your knowlegedable of the sport, and I respect that, and I appreciate your enthusiasm for the sport. The reason I chose to respond to your post is only just to encourage you.

You mentioned measurements.

For my part, I have a boxer's body, by that I mean the kind of physique more like boxer's more use to have before some had gone to doing this so-called modern day physical training for boxer's today.

I don't have a musclebound physique. I've got muscles of course. (smiling)

I have a natural body, and my bodyweight is remains the same as it was more than 30 years ago when I use to box in the amatuer ranks at 168-172 pounds, and my height remains the same. I'm five ten (actually, 5' 10 1/2").

As for my weight and physique its remains very near the same as it did more than 30 years ago, only for reasons I've continued to train and to workout much as I did back when I was boxing.

You mentioned measurements. Again, I have no musclebound physique like bodybuilders do.

My measurements, for example, I have a 31 inch Waist, and a 43 inch Chest (normal), and a 45 inch Chest (expanded).

But especially at my age it sure wouldn't be that if I had not continued to train and to stay in shape I can sure tell you that.

For when guys turn 50, they turn to put on weight more easily, and start to get a "pot belly," and hair loss and their body starts going with age especially if they don't keep themselves in shape.

As for physical appearance and physique. Especially today in terms of physique what appears to a person as for someone having a great physique is much dependant on what a person have been educated to in various ways to think as to what looks great as for physique.

Bodybuilders tend to see that of having HUGE BULGING MUSCLES as seen in the muscle magazines as being great physiques.

Yet those aren't natural bodies, and the training they do as for lifting weights isn't a naural form of exercise either.

Chimpanzees, as an example, are eight times stronger than a man, yet do not lift weights.

How do chimpanzees exercise?

The thing about lifting weights or exercising using resistence machines can will for example increase the size and strength of muscles, reshaping your body and making you look great, however.

It generally only works with the muscles that are seen and does not the the majority of muscles that have no aesthetic value.

It also does not address the strength of ligaments and tendons.

Well, that can create an inbalance, where some muscles are strong and abnormally large, and other muscles, ligaments and tendons are weak and disproportionate in size.

Let me give you an example, I had known a professional athlete who did not lift weights but he was really a very strong guy.

He had an athletic built and not what many today would generally consider to be a musclebound physique.

This guy had have strong ligaments and tendons and most especially in his arms and shoulders and in his hands for reasons of the way he trained. He did not lift weights.

You wouldn't never think just by looking at this guy that he was as strong as he was, but he could break a steel pair of plyers with his hands.

I was amazed at the grip this guy had, in being he could break a steel pair of plyers in his hand.

Hey, he could grip your hand in a test of strength that could bring a big man to his knees. He was that strong!

He'd smile and say, "What's wrong, big guy?" As you were in pain pleading for him to loose his grip on your hand.

I just share this to point out the fact that there are different kinds of strengths.

In part, genetics may play a role in it. But it actually has more to do as for the way he chose to exercise and to train.

I've never known an athlete myself included that didn't take pride in their physique.

But having a more functional body I think is by far better than to be musclebound and to have dysfunctional body, or less functional body for reasons of being too musclebound is what I'm trying to say.

I mean you don't just want to be all show do you and to look tough, but not to really be all that tough, and to look like your in shape, but actually to not be in as good a shape as you might look is what I'm trying to say.

And the problem is that there many people who want to get in shape, but most really do not know how to properly train to achieve their goals in training.

They say that here in America that people are exercising more than ever before, or, at least they will say that are.

Yet it can be seen that Americans are getting fatter and fatter.

They are supposedly exercising more than ever before yet they are getting fater and fatter.

Well, its not eating the right foods, its for reasons of having a poor diet, and poor training habits.

This is why in part, and much the reason their are so many unhealthy and sickly people today.

I could turn this into a big subject very easily, only for reasons I've had interest in having studied physcial fitness and various forms of training over the years and have done a lot research.

The reason I've had so much interest in it I guess is because after I first took up boxing in the gym when I was just a kid. I've been I guess you could say a kind of physical fitness and conditioning freak ever since I was just a kid.

Well, I'm glad I am. I think that's much the reason that other than just routine physical examinations I have had no need of doctors in more than 40 years.

Only, because I'm never get sick.

Other than just routine physical examinations, only sick people need a doctor.

Some people may say, its just having good genes.

Maybe! But it also has to do with getting out there and doing something and keeping yourself physically fit too.

Finally, I want to say the fact that there are apparently so many professional athletes taking drugs (steriods) and
body enhancements says a lot about the quality of the so-called modern day training today.

Someone had said, "This proof is in the puddin."

How I know how good the training being perscibed is by what it produces?

Do we have more healthy, well-conditioned and talented athletes today?

Hardly!

Do we have that in boxing today?

Hardly!

Hey, if you ask me I'd have to say the old school was and still is the best school.

JC

 

[Sonny Liston]

It seems I remember reading a recent post of yours in which you mentioned that your planning on take up boxing and your wanting to box in competition.

I took that to mean you have interest in becoming an amatuer boxer.

Not sure your age? But if your a youngster? I would encouage you to do so. Its a great fitness and confidence builder.

Perhaps you may have read enough of my posts now. That is, if you have read many of my posts. You know that I'm not an advocate of lifting weights, and especially not for boxers.

Of course, I'm a an older man now in my mid 50s. I'm not boxing any more but I still put myself in the gym daily to workout just to keep in shape, and I think I am in pretty good shape for an old guy.

You mentioned "pushups", for example, I can get down and do 100 pushups fairly easily without a problem.

But there are different kinds of strengths.

As for what you mentioned about lifting weights.

I'm sure their are a lot of guys that are strong who lift weights may could bench press 400 pounds, that maybe would have much difficulty even doing 40-50 pushups if even that many without tiring.

Like I said there are different kinds of strengths and as for the kind of strength you have is going to depend much on the type of physical training you have learned to do and that you chose to do.

Also I'd like to say that as for the overall health and physical fitness thing today, it come to be a really big business, and naturally you going to have people out there trying to sell you stuff as in near all types of business stuff that you don't really need.

By the way, I'd just like to add that I've enjoyed reading you posts. Your knowlegedable of the sport, and I respect that, and I appreciate your enthusiasm for the sport. The reason I chose to respond to your post is only just to encourage you.

You mentioned measurements.

For my part, I have a boxer's body, by that I mean the kind of physique more like boxer's more use to have before some had gone to doing this so-called modern day physical training for boxer's today.

I don't have a musclebound physique. I've got muscles of course. (smiling)

I have a natural body, and my bodyweight is remains the same as it was more than 30 years ago when I use to box in the amatuer ranks at 168-172 pounds, and my height remains the same. I'm five ten (actually, 5' 10 1/2").

As for my weight and physique its remains very near the same as it did more than 30 years ago, only for reasons I've continued to train and to workout much as I did back when I was boxing.

You mentioned measurements. Again, I have no musclebound physique like bodybuilders do.

My measurements, for example, I have a 31 inch Waist, and a 43 inch Chest (normal), and a 45 inch Chest (expanded).

But especially at my age it sure wouldn't be that if I had not continued to train and to stay in shape I can sure tell you that.

For when guys turn 50, they turn to put on weight more easily, and start to get a "pot belly," and hair loss and their body starts going with age especially if they don't keep themselves in shape.

As for physical appearance and physique. Especially today in terms of physique what appears to a person as for someone having a great physique is much dependant on what a person have been educated to in various ways to think as to what looks great as for physique.

Bodybuilders tend to see that of having HUGE BULGING MUSCLES as seen in the muscle magazines as being great physiques.

Yet those aren't natural bodies, and the training they do as for lifting weights isn't a naural form of exercise either.

Chimpanzees, as an example, are eight times stronger than a man, yet do not lift weights.

How do chimpanzees exercise?

The thing about lifting weights or exercising using resistence machines can will for example increase the size and strength of muscles, reshaping your body and making you look great, however.

It generally only works with the muscles that are seen and does not the the majority of muscles that have no aesthetic value.

It also does not address the strength of ligaments and tendons.

Well, that can create an inbalance, where some muscles are strong and abnormally large, and other muscles, ligaments and tendons are weak and disproportionate in size.

Let me give you an example, I had known a professional athlete who did not lift weights but he was really a very strong guy.

He had an athletic built and not what many today would generally consider to be a musclebound physique.

This guy had have strong ligaments and tendons and most especially in his arms and shoulders and in his hands for reasons of the way he trained. He did not lift weights.

You wouldn't never think just by looking at this guy that he was as strong as he was, but he could break a steel pair of plyers with his hands.

I was amazed at the grip this guy had, in being he could break a steel pair of plyers in his hand.

Hey, he could grip your hand in a test of strength that could bring a big man to his knees. He was that strong!

He'd smile and say, "What's wrong, big guy?" As you were in pain pleading for him to loose his grip on your hand.

I just share this to point out the fact that there are different kinds of strengths.

In part, genetics may play a role in it. But it actually has more to do as for the way he chose to exercise and to train.

I've never known an athlete myself included that didn't take pride in their physique.

But having a more functional body I think is by far better than to be musclebound and to have dysfunctional body, or less functional body for reasons of being too musclebound is what I'm trying to say.

I mean you don't just want to be all show do you and to look tough, but not to really be all that tough, and to look like your in shape, but actually to not be in as good a shape as you might look is what I'm trying to say.

And the problem is that there many people who want to get in shape, but most really do not know how to properly train to achieve their goals in training.

They say that here in America that people are exercising more than ever before, or, at least they will say that are.

Yet it can be seen that Americans are getting fatter and fatter.

They are supposedly exercising more than ever before yet they are getting fater and fatter.

Well, its not eating the right foods, its for reasons of having a poor diet, and poor training habits.

This is why in part, and much the reason their are so many unhealthy and sickly people today.

I could turn this into a big subject very easily, only for reasons I've had interest in having studied physcial fitness and various forms of training over the years and have done a lot research.

The reason I've had so much interest in it I guess is because after I first took up boxing in the gym when I was just a kid. I've been I guess you could say a kind of physical fitness and conditioning freak ever since I was just a kid.

Well, I'm glad I am. I think that's much the reason that other than just routine physical examinations I have had no need of doctors in more than 40 years.

Only, because I'm never get sick.

Other than just routine physical examinations, only sick people need a doctor.

Some people may say, its just having good genes.

Maybe! But it also has to do with getting out there and doing something and keeping yourself physically fit too.

Finally, I want to say the fact that there are apparently so many professional athletes taking drugs (steriods) and
body enhancements says a lot about the quality of the so-called modern day training today.

Someone had said, "This proof is in the puddin."

How I know how good the training being perscibed is by what it produces?

Do we have more healthy, well-conditioned and talented athletes today?

Hardly!

Do we have that in boxing today?

Hardly!

Hey, if you ask me I'd have to say the old school was and still is the best school.

JC

I'd love to box... and make a career out of it... and get really fit... maintain my strength... and develop a killer punch... a haymaker that can break a man's jaw in one decisive blow!!! BUT I'M TOO OLD... I'm 21... I wish I started YEARS AGO... I've always been obsessed with boxing... but never, ever got around to it! Floyd Patterson took it up at 14 and won a Gold Medal 3 years later at 17... and then turned Pro. Earnie Shavers was a big man and all muscle who took it up at 22 and turned Pro. at 24. I'm a 5'9" stocky, but flabby and not so fit 21yearold with no hope... I'm just being real with myself!!!

 

[JCC]

I'm a 5'9" stocky, but flabby and not so fit 21 year old with no hope... I'm just being real with myself!!!

Why your just a youngster!

You get out there and start doing something, and get fit and when you do your going to come to be of a different frame of mind, and you'll start thinking tough.

Your putting limitations on yourself.

Come on, your only 21 years old, you got to be kidding!

JC

 

[bill1234]

I'd love to box... and make a career out of it... and get really fit... maintain my strength... and develop a killer punch... a haymaker that can break a man's jaw in one decisive blow!!! BUT I'M TOO OLD... I'm 21... I wish I started YEARS AGO... I've always been obsessed with boxing... but never, ever got around to it! Floyd Patterson took it up at 14 and won a Gold Medal 3 years later at 17... and then turned Pro. Earnie Shavers was a big man and all muscle who took it up at 22 and turned Pro. at 24. I'm a 5'9" stocky, but flabby and not so fit 21yearold with no hope... I'm just being real with myself!!!

You are just young enough to start. Marciano got a very late start, so did Holmes. Look how great they are!!! All you need to do go to a local boxing gym, work out every day or as many days as you can, do road work, sit ups, and swiming is very good for you too. Ride your bike, basicaly get active along with your work out. If you are 5'9 and want to be a heavy weight, you better hit super super hard, or be the fastest boxer ever... But if you can livewith being a welter to light heavy, then go for it.

 

[Sonny Liston]

You are just young enough to start. Marciano got a very late start, so did Holmes. Look how great they are!!! All you need to do go to a local boxing gym, work out every day or as many days as you can, do road work, sit ups, and swiming is very good for you too. Ride your bike, basicaly get active along with your work out. If you are 5'9 and want to be a heavy weight, you better hit super super hard, or be the fastest boxer ever... But if you can livewith being a welter to light heavy, then go for it.

I know Holmes was 23.5 when he turned Pro but hadn't he been boxing as an Amateur for several years before that? Anyways... I'm going to try and get Superfit this year... I'd like to compete anywhere between Welterweight and Light Heavyweight... although I'm not exactly a huge fan of the Super Middleweight Division... but yeah... something like that! HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYBODY!

 

[JCC]

I know Holmes was 23.5 when he turned Pro but hadn't he been boxing as an Amateur for several years before that?

The amatuer ranks is from where the pro's come from.

Anyways... I'm going to try and get Superfit this year...

"Do it: don't talk about."

ROCKY MARCIANO ... give that advice many times to his brothers, friends and acquaintances in the boxing world.

I'd like to compete anywhere between Welterweight and Light Heavyweight... although I'm not exactly a huge fan of the Super Middleweight Division... but yeah... something like that!

You got a mind deal going?

If your SERIOUS, and its not just some mind deal you got going. Go take up boxing in a gym some where and enroll in the Golden Gloves or something like that and to train and to enter some tourament fights.

Then your going to quickly find out if you got what he takes.

If you find that you got what it takes. You need to spend at least 4-5 years in the amatuer ranks before even thinking about a professional career.

For there is much to know and learn, and that takes some years.

The weight division you want to be in is at what weight in more natural for you.

A well-conditioned fighter's body should look like a rasin not a grape.

A boxer's body should be all muscle and bone.

Keep that in mind as your exercise and train.

You want to have a functional body, your body is a tool.

Its the spirit and power of the mind that drives the fighter's body.

When you get out there and get yourself in shape it'll build your confidence.

Physical training strenghtens and toughens up the body, and that will also have an affect on your state of mind, you come to be of a different and better frame of mind.

JC

 

[Sonny Liston]

The amatuer ranks is from where the pro's come from.




"Do it: don't talk about."

ROCKY MARCIANO ... give that advice many times to his brothers, friends and acquaintances in the boxing world.



You got a mind deal going?

If your SERIOUS, and its not just some mind deal you got going. Go take up boxing in a gym some where and enroll in the Golden Gloves or something like that and to train and to enter some tourament fights.

Then your going to quickly find out if you got what he takes.

If you find that you got what it takes. You need to spend at least 4-5 years in the amatuer ranks before even thinking about a professional career.

For there is much to know and learn, and that takes some years.

The weight division you want to be in is at what weight in more natural for you.

A well-conditioned fighter's body should look like a rasin not a grape.

A boxer's body should be all muscle and bone.

Keep that in mind as your exercise and train.

You want to have a functional body, your body is a tool.

Its the spirit and power of the mind that drives the fighter's body.

When you get out there and get yourself in shape it'll build your confidence.

Physical training strenghtens and toughens up the body, and that will also have an affect on your state of mind, you come to be of a different and better frame of mind.

JC

GODDAMN IT... I should just do it... NOW! No more of just punching that back in the gym all of the time... I've got to get some actual proper boxing lessons ASAP and get somewhere... NOW!!!

 

[bill1234]

GODDAMN IT... I should just do it... NOW! No more of just punching that back in the gym all of the time... I've got to get some actual proper boxing lessons ASAP and get somewhere... NOW!!!

Yes you do. Look in the phone book for a boxing gym, or look for a personal trainer...OR GET ACTIVE IN SOME SORT OF BOXING!!!

 

[Kyle]

Im 5'7, 152lbs, not fat, not ripped either, I can run the mile in 5 mins, 11 seconds. I can bench 160 lbs. I leg press 420. I play basketball football and box. used to play hockey but I sucked. On the field I play Starting middle Linebacker and second string Halfback. On the court I play Point gaurd Im average basketball player. I have a 23" vertical. Anyone else?

 

[bill1234]

I know Holmes was 23.5 when he turned Pro but hadn't he been boxing as an Amateur for several years before that? Anyways... I'm going to try and get Superfit this year... I'd like to compete anywhere between Welterweight and Light Heavyweight... although I'm not exactly a huge fan of the Super Middleweight Division... but yeah... something like that! HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYBODY!

No he hadn't. He was only boxing for like 2 years before that. Unless you consider street fighting, then that is a different story. 2 people aimed a shot gun at him before. The 1st time some guy got high, and took a shotgun. Then Larry went over to him and the guy aimed it at Larry and Larry took it from him and beat him up (Larry was in his mid-late teens when this happened). The other time a cop shoved a shotgun into his stomach. Some riot happend and Larry was driving down the road (he was in his late teens), and he saw his brother running away from something, so he got out and ran after him and a cop shoved a shotgun into Larry's stomach around a corner. Larry was poor growing up (his mother had to raise over 6 kids on wealfare). So what Larry and his brothers did for food was go to a bar, get on some boxing gloves, fight each other or other kids, and then they got all the food and drinks they wanted for free.

 

[JCC]

No he hadn't. He was only boxing for like 2 years before that. Unless you consider street fighting, then that is a different story.

A lot of guys grew up in neighborhoods grew up in tough neighhoods as he apparently did, and not all were black who did either. I'm not black and I grew up in a tough neighhood too.

There were a lot of tough kids in the neighborhood I lived, and also at that boy's club I went to when I was a kid too.

There was all kinds of sports there a kid could be engaged with there besides boxing.

You could do a lot of stuff there shoot pool, play ping pong, go swimming, there was a lot of stuff to do there play basket ball as well as other things.

But boxing was all I was ever interested in.

As for street fights? Kids getting into fights there it was near a daily thing to happen there.

But few messed with the few kids there that were boxers. But some did! But those were easy fights for the kids who were boxers.

I never lost one of those kind of fights. Neither did any of of the other kids on the boxing team at the club either as for those kind of street fights.

In those days if a fight broke off in the pool hall at the club for example, which was often over something.

They could take those kids down stairs to the gym and put them in the ring and put the gloves on them and that's the way grudges would be settled.

They would announce "FIGHT IN THE GYM, FIGHT IN THE GYM." And it would always draw a big crowd into the gym of at the club.

It was a fun thing actually, and if it was a situation in which one of the kids was one of the boxers of the club which wasn't often. But when it was he often would TKO the other kid he got into a fight with in the first round no matter how much bigger the other kid may have been. It would always be a miss match.

That came to happen often enough at the club that few of the tough kids, and they all were tough wouldn't want to mess with those other kids at the club if they knew they were boxers.

I hear a lot of talk today about this so-called modern training for boxers today, about it being better. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT! The old school was better! We had tougher, more talented, well-conditioned fighters back in those days.

As I remember it those kids were so tough and well-conditioned, as for many of them they would have gotten into the ring and to have fought any body that wanted to fight no matter how big or tough they may have been.

If you could have have put the gloves on the DEVIL and put him in the ring, and they would have fought him too, myself included.

In the 1960s and especially in the 1970s martial arts came to be promoted more with a lot of hype with the growing popularity of all the kung fu movies which was a lot of silly and hyped up hollywood stuff.

A lot of kids started taking up marital arts, but I never saw those kids to ever be able to take a punch.

I always saw karate and all that martial arts stuff as having been over rated.

I'd always found the toughest kids to be boxers ... tough .. two fisted street fighters.

There is nothing out there that will toughen you in body, and toughen you in mind, and build self confidence and really teach you how to fight like boxing will do for you.

In my veiw, boxing is and always has been number # 1.

JCC

 

[bill1234]

A lot of guys grew up in neighborhoods grew up in tough neighhoods as he apparently did, and not all were black who did either. I'm not black and I grew up in a tough neighhood too.

There were a lot of tough kids in the neighborhood I lived, and also at that boy's club I went to when I was a kid too.

There was all kinds of sports there a kid could be engaged with there besides boxing.

You could do a lot of stuff there shoot pool, play ping pong, go swimming, there was a lot of stuff to do there play basket ball as well as other things.

But boxing was all I was ever interested.

As for street fights? Kids getting into fights there it was near a daily thing to happen there.

But few messed with the few kids there that were boxers. But some did! But those were easy fights for the kids who were boxers.

I never lost one of those kind of fights. Neither did any of of the other kids on the boxing team at the club either as for those kind of street fights.

In those days if a fight broke off in the pool hall at the club for example, which was often over something.

They could take those kids down stairs to the gym and put them in the ring and put the gloves on them and that's the way grudges would be settled.

They would announce "FIGHT IN THE GYM, FIGHT IN THE GYM." And it would always draw a big crowd into the gym of at the club.

It was a fun thing actually, and if it was a situation in which one of the kids was one of the boxers of the club which wasn't often. But when it was he often would TKO the other kid he got into a fight with in the first round no matter how much bigger the other kid may have been. It would always be a miss match.

That came to happen often enough at the club that few of the tough kids, and they all were tough wouldn't want to mess with those other kids at the club if they knew they were boxers.

I hear a lot of talk today about this so-called modern training for boxers today, about it being better. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT! The old school was better! We had tougher, more talented, well-conditioned fighters back in those days.

As I remember it those kids were so tough and well-conditioned, as for many of them they would have gotten into the ring and to have fought any body that wanted to fight no matter how big or tough they may have been.

If you could have have put the gloves on the DEVIL and put him in the ring, and they would have fought him too, myself included.

In the 1960s and especially in the 1970s martial arts came to be promoted more with a lot of hype with the growing popularity of all the kung fu movies which was a lot of silly and hyped up hollywood stuff.

A lot of kids started taking up marital arts, but I never saw those kids to ever be about to take a punch.

I always saw the karate and all that martial arts stuff as having been over rated.

I'd always found the toughest kids to be boxers ... tough .. two fisted street fighters.

There is nothing out there that will toughen you in body and toughen you in mind, and build self confidence and really teach you how to fight than boxing.

In my veiw, boxing is and always has been number # 1.

JCC

You and I think a like. At my shcool typicaly there is 1-2 fights a month. I my self haven't been in one though.