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This article discusses the recent assertion that MMA is actually safer than Boxing. It's conclusion?

MMA definitely appears to cause fewer major injuries such as "Punch Drunk Syndrome", Paralysis, Brain Damage, etc and in addition it also has a lower risk of death than Boxing by a margin of at least 8 times.

However... the risk of smaller injury is in fact much larger in MMA than it is in Boxing. Per this article, "...a 2006 study in the Journal of Sports Science and Medicine found that MMA produced 28.6 injuries per 100 fight participants compared to 17.1 injuries per 100 fight participants in boxing."

These injuries include (but are not limited to) "...facial cuts, broken noses, ribs, hands, and orbital bones..."

The entire article can be found here:
MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More
 

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Including facial cuts and broken noses etc and i would imagine boxing probably is more dangerous than MMA. But i think MMA would probably cause more damaging injuries because they can kick and all sorts in that ****.
 

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It has been proven that MMA is safer than boxing. A lot of the punishment taken by MMA guys comes while their head is supported. Boxer's heads are never supported when they are punched repeatedly to the head. Head shots add up.
 

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PrettyBoyFloyd said:
It has been proven that MMA is safer than boxing. A lot of the punishment taken by MMA guys comes while their head is supported. Boxer's heads are never supported when they are punched repeatedly to the head. Head shots add up.
True, hence the difference in major injury or death between the two. The study found however that MMA is more likely to cause minor injury.

Apparantly the NFL is worse than both. :dunno:
 

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I think a lot has to do with gloves also. With the padding they have in gloves it allows them to usually get hit more often. The gloves they have in mma is almost like bare knuckle. It does not take as much to get KOed. Plus many lose by tapping which means a lot less punches to the head.
 

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I think a lot has to do with gloves also. With the padding they have in gloves it allows them to usually get hit more often. The gloves they have in mma is almost like bare knuckle. It does not take as much to get KOed. Plus many lose by tapping which means a lot less punches to the head.
The major difference is the shots to the head boxers take. It gets your brain sloshing around while unstable while MMA guys heads are usually stabilized. Hell, neither one is particularly safe.
 

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I read somewhere that the main damage in boxing comes from the hundreds/thousands of hours of hard sparring that a boxer must do acquire the skill.

I can grapple for hours and not worry about injury but the cumulative damage to the head through hard sparring.
 

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sparring/boxing are basically the same, the repition of getting hit in the head is what causes all the damage. mma guys get hit flush once adn they seem to be out, and they hardly get hit in the head/face at all. that is the main thing boxers get hit in.
 

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sparring/boxing are basically the same, the repition of getting hit in the head is what causes all the damage. mma guys get hit flush once adn they seem to be out, and they hardly get hit in the head/face at all. that is the main thing boxers get hit in.
I'll agree as long as you're not suggesting that MMA guys have weak chin's. I could name a long list of iron jawed MMA fighters.
 

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There are some MMA guys who have weaker chins than others. Having a strong chin is not 100% necessary to MMA

I can't imagine being a boxer and not having a strong chin.
 

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You can only get so far in both without having a strong chin, but the bottomline is eventually you will get caught out. MMA has some very strong chins, remember they use lighter gloves i believe.
 

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There are some MMA guys who have weaker chins than others. Having a strong chin is not 100% necessary to MMA

I can't imagine being a boxer and not having a strong chin.
I'll agree with that. In MMA if you're a really good takedown artist and ground specialist, you might excell without ever really having to have your chin tested because you can dominate most without ever having to eat one. In Boxing you have to take punches in order to win because there really isn't much of a chance of avoiding it, not if you're fighting the best.
 

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Take Tito Ortiz, while he has an abnormaly large head, I don't think he has more than an average chin. Even though he's great at takedowns, and ground and pound he'll never be able to beat Chuck cause he can't take the damage to get in and control him.

Rampage has a much better chin (he's a tough MoFo)

BJ Penn has an abnormal chin and can take huge punishment and not even bruise,which is why he's so good in that he's not afraid to take a hit from anyone.
 

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I'll agree as long as you're not suggesting that MMA guys have weak chin's. I could name a long list of iron jawed MMA fighters.
and i bet till 3 weeks ago chuck liddel would have topped your list. :rolleyes:
 

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and i bet till 3 weeks ago chuck liddel would have topped your list. :rolleyes:
You would have lost that bet. I was one of the few people who thought Rampage had a very solid chance of taking out Chuck. Not because I think Rampage is the better fighter overall, I think Chuck will beat more Top Ten guys than Page, but Rampage is just a BAD style match up for him.

Chuck's chin is good, but he's not near the top of the list. Nick Diaz has a solid chin, Big Nogueira has a solid chin, Mark Hunt has a solid chin, Drew McFedries who is fighting tonight live on SpikeTV has a solid chin, etc. Rampage has a good chin too but he's been TKO'd before, mostly by absorbing strike after strike before he finally drops-see Silva/Jackson for that...
 

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The biggest chins are Hunt, Fedor, and Fujita is i belive the guy who had his noggin x-rayed and his skull is one inch thicker then average.
 

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i dont believe lighter gloves have anything to do with it. however i do believe the type of glove does. I actually take a bare fist punch better than a hard one from a glove. Gloves add little protection. The reason they were created were for protecting the hands. I knew rampage would kick chucks ass, but i could care less. from what ive seen. All top level boxers have way above average chins, not to many top mma or ufc fights have but average if not below average chins. I think the administrator needs to just go ahead and create an mma part to this forum. that way all this junk, i mean talk, can go into it. instead of taking up our lounge space. no disrespect, but i kinda think this should be the place we talk about other than boxing/mma/ufc stuff. I will stop hating on ufc/mma, its just not my thing.
 

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I would be all for a mma section. But if and when they do, I don't see anything wrong with the talk in the lounge. There are only 5 pages on the lounge so I can't see space being used up. The funny thing is as much as you guys don't like mma, you guys still come on here to talk about it. So I say bring on a mma section!
 
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