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I scored the fight 114-113 for Oquendo and I'm pretty sure I gave every close round to Toney because he was the agressor for most of the fight. This decision is really rough because Toney looked awful and now we more than likely have get another title shot. Anyone who saw that fight knows he's done. Did anyone else score it?

It's really time to be out with the old (Toney, Rahman, Holyfield) and in the new (Arreola, Povetkin, Haye). Without the passing of the torch the Heavyweight division is doomed to keep boxing down.
 

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I scored the fight 114-113 for Oquendo and I'm pretty sure I gave every close round to Toney because he was the agressor for most of the fight. This decision is really rough because Toney looked awful and now we more than likely have get another title shot. Anyone who saw that fight knows he's done. Did anyone else score it?

It's really time to be out with the old (Toney, Rahman, Holyfield) and in the new (Arreola, Povetkin, Haye). Without the passing of the torch the Heavyweight division is doomed to keep boxing down.
I didnt watch the whole fight because it was super boring but i had Oquendo winning.
 
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Speak of the devil:

Heavyweight contender Fres Oquendo will file a formal protest with the California State Athletic Commission to review the split decision rendered by the judges in last Saturday's fight with former three division champion James Toney. Oquendo hopes the commission will order an immediate rematch or change the result to a no-contest.

Most people sitting ringside at the Morongo Casino and watching on television via the Versus network - scored the fight for Oquendo. The scores were 116-111 for Oquendo, 115-112 and 114-113 for Toney. Oquendo also lost a point in the eight round of fight for hitting Toney behind the head. The foul was not intentional and cost Oquendo a draw in the fight.

"I am going to protest the result. Everyone that saw the fight that night have told me that I should protest, that I won the majority of the rounds and there has been an injustice. It could not believe it when I listened to the decision. I did everything but score a knockout, but I am hopeful that the commission of California will rule it as a no-contest or at least order a rematch. It would be the perfect gift for Christmas," Oquendo told Primera Hora.

"I am not going to retire. At the age of 35, I feel that I am in the best point of my career. Once I return to Chicago, I will take a rest and I will return to the gym as soon as possible. My goal is to fight again in February of 2009."
-boxingscene.com

I doubt this will get anywhere, but that decision was a load of BS.
 

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Aside from a handful of good displays Toney has been pretty irrelevant for about a decade now. Its about time people stopped talking about him like he is still a serious contender, Wlad would jab him to death.
 

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This fight could have gone either way. Oquendo would just grab toney and right before he broke away he would land a shot. He hit toney with a couple of great shots at the end of the fight but the fight was close overall. Oquendo would earn his lands in a very sloppy manner while Toney was the sharper more efficient puncher. But I can't really argue the decision...it could have gone to either fighter that night.
 

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Aside from a handful of good displays Toney has been pretty irrelevant for about a decade now. Its about time people stopped talking about him like he is still a serious contender, Wlad would jab him to death.
And Haye would knock him out.
 

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I scored the fight 114-113 for Oquendo and I'm pretty sure I gave every close round to Toney because he was the agressor for most of the fight. This decision is really rough because Toney looked awful and now we more than likely have get another title shot. Anyone who saw that fight knows he's done. Did anyone else score it?

It's really time to be out with the old (Toney, Rahman, Holyfield) and in the new (Arreola, Povetkin, Haye). Without the passing of the torch the Heavyweight division is doomed to keep boxing down.
I had it 115-112 for Oquendo, but the real loser was Toney, inspite of the decision. That should pretty much squealch any more big fights he hoped to have. Fres comes out of it with some new life and might get a good shot against a guy on the Rise, but he was pretty much out of the picture coming in and had nothing much to lose. In a sense, despite the scores, Oquendo did win and Toney did lose, given their positions going in.
 

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Ive been saying this for ages!! Forget about James Toney, this guy does not have the work ethic to ever be a hw champion, thats why he took steroids to begin with. James Toney was a good fighter but nothing more, he will never be a world champion and people should really just forget about him and let him retire.
 
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Ive been saying this for ages!! Forget about James Toney, this guy does not have the work ethic to ever be a hw champion, thats why he took steroids to begin with. James Toney was a good fighter but nothing more, he will never be a world champion and people should really just forget about him and let him retire.
This is what everyone is saying. The problem is, when Toney keeps winning these BS decisions, it keeps him in the mix because there are so many titles and a lack of real talent in the Heavyweight division. He needs to be handed a convincing loss, and I think he got handed one on Saturday from Oquendo.
 

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This fight was as pathetic as they come, who the hell taught oquendo how to fight , he looked like was scare to hurt Toney ,hitting him with an open glove all night long , and That tub of lard Toney all you have to do is push him back a little bit and he's, all fucked out of balance, until he stars posing all over again ,his best punch of the night was the kidney punch everytime they clnched, he should call it a career he oviously cannot trow a punch anymore, all he does is pose, and Oquendo they should feed him to Haye
 

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And Haye would knock him out.
c'mon, now. as bad as toney has looked this will never happen.

This is what everyone is saying. The problem is, when Toney keeps winning these BS decisions, it keeps him in the mix because there are so many titles and a lack of real talent in the Heavyweight division. He needs to be handed a convincing loss, and I think he got handed one on Saturday from Oquendo.
most of what you're saying is true, but i felt the fight could've went either way. the main problem is the only fighters capable of handing toney a convincing loss currently hold 3/4 of the heavyweight crown. even in his degraded state he still is able to beat most of the top heavys.
 

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i scored the fight 114-113 for oquendo,but it was no robbery or anything like that, it was just a close fight that could of gone either way

if i ever bothered to sit through it again, i might even score it for toney, it was that close
 

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Nobody stops Toney not even the Klitschkos. I knew Toney wouldn't show up for Oquendo we're talking about a guy that's as inconsistent as Zab Judah if not more these days. Give him a title shot and he'll show up.
 
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