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Joe Frazier had the sugar ray robinson of left hooks. It was the most rounded left hook the heavyweight division, or even boxing as a whole has ever seen. It was fast, accurate, powerful, and very effective. Sure, there were harder left hooks, like Cooney's, or faster, like Tyson's. His left hook was like Holmes's jab. He could control and win a fight with only his left hook. Unfortunately, that was pretty much the only dangerous weopan he had in his arrsenal. If he had a powerful right, or strong jab, he would have been a lot better.
 

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i wouldn't just say it as his only tool, although it seemed like that because it was so great he had a good right upercut also, i recall frazier absolutly bombing someone down with it although ive forgoten who against.

the delahoya left hook comes pretty damn close to joes though.
 

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Awesome left hook! And he could throw it all night long, 15 rounds no problem. It's the main thing that made Frazier the best body puncher I ever saw.

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Awesome left hook! And he could throw it all night long, 15 rounds no problem. It's the main thing that made Frazier the best body puncher I ever saw.

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I agree with you with having Frazier as the greatest body puncher. He would dig that left hook into your ribs, and double jab your solar plexus. He cracked Larry Holmes's ribs back in sparring in 1973. Frazier went all out in sparring, and since Larry's style was like Ali's, he hired him for the time. Larry held his own, and even beat Frazier at times. If Larry was 5 years older, he would have been even more competive in the 70's IMO. He would probably be the champion even. Sure, he would have been in some tough fights with Ali, Frazier, and Norton, but nothing he couldn't handle. IMO he would beat Big George rather easily because George was pretty easy to hit, and it would be a peice of cake for Larry to land his jab. But back to the topic, Frazier is definately the best body puncher Ive ever seen, but Cooney is 2nd with me. His money shot was his left hook to the liver, and that used to KO A LOT of people. IMO Cooney had a harder left hook than Frazier, but Frazier had the better left hook overall. Sort of like Foreman and Shavers. Shavers hit harder, but Foreman was the better fighter overall.
 

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I agree with you with having Frazier as the greatest body puncher. He would dig that left hook into your ribs, and double jab your solar plexus. He cracked Larry Holmes's ribs back in sparring in 1973. Frazier went all out in sparring, and since Larry's style was like Ali's, he hired him for the time. Larry held his own, and even beat Frazier at times. If Larry was 5 years older, he would have been even more competive in the 70's IMO. He would probably be the champion even. Sure, he would have been in some tough fights with Ali, Frazier, and Norton, but nothing he couldn't handle. IMO he would beat Big George rather easily because George was pretty easy to hit, and it would be a peice of cake for Larry to land his jab. But back to the topic, Frazier is definately the best body puncher Ive ever seen, but Cooney is 2nd with me. His money shot was his left hook to the liver, and that used to KO A LOT of people. IMO Cooney had a harder left hook than Frazier, but Frazier had the better left hook overall. Sort of like Foreman and Shavers. Shavers hit harder, but Foreman was the better fighter overall.
I agree Larry had the perfect style to beat Foreman; I think it would have been a helluva fight though. Cooney's power tends to get underrated because he was Cooney! No one seems to want to give him credit for ANYTHING. Frazier, Foreman, Cooney, and Shavers all had one punch KO power but like anything there are degrees of one punch power that differentiates them. I think McCallum is the second best body puncher I've seen.

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I like what George Chuvalo said about Frazier's hook:

Joe Frazier's punch is lik a Pontiac car coming at you at 100mph

That shot was like an anti-tank missile: heavy, fast, accurate, and armor-piercing.

I wrote about Frazier here.

I agree with you with having Frazier as the greatest body puncher. He would dig that left hook into your ribs, and double jab your solar plexus. He cracked Larry Holmes's ribs back in sparring in 1973. Frazier went all out in sparring, and since Larry's style was like Ali's, he hired him for the time. Larry held his own, and even beat Frazier at times. If Larry was 5 years older, he would have been even more competive in the 70's IMO. He would probably be the champion even. Sure, he would have been in some tough fights with Ali, Frazier, and Norton, but nothing he couldn't handle. IMO he would beat Big George rather easily because George was pretty easy to hit, and it would be a peice of cake for Larry to land his jab. But back to the topic, Frazier is definately the best body puncher Ive ever seen, but Cooney is 2nd with me. His money shot was his left hook to the liver, and that used to KO A LOT of people. IMO Cooney had a harder left hook than Frazier, but Frazier had the better left hook overall. Sort of like Foreman and Shavers. Shavers hit harder, but Foreman was the better fighter overall.
 
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