Did you see the fight, or had you seen the tape?niko said:Not 100% sure what you mean.
The "fight" that never happened was the second Clay Liston match.
JCC said:Did you see the fight, or had you seen the tape?
Of course, you know when the fight was held. But I just mention this for some readers that may be youngsters who may not know.niko said:
I'm leaking out how old I am here, but believe it or not I seen it on TV when I was a very young boy.
Your sentiments were the same as most other fight fans at that time.niko said:
I remember being very disapointed at the ending.
I was for Walcott to win because Marciano KO'd one of my heroes,and one of the most popular sporting stars ever THE BROWN BOMBER.
It took me awhile to become a Marciano fan.
The 1950s were the happy days!niko said:
Then Rocky retired well before I became a adult.
I appreciated Marciano much more later, just like
many things it takes a while before they sink in.
Yep, that about sums it up, nothing but a miscount on Walcotts part.JCC said:As for the rematch something I came to see interesting was the first round consisted of Marciano chasing and Walcott retreating and then clinching, and with less than a minute remaining in the round, Marciano caught Walcott with a short left hook that seemed to just kind of brushed Walcott's cheek followed by a right from Marciano that from appearances at least didn't appear to have been all that devastating a punch, particularly by the television veiwers.
Maybe it was a knockout punch, or maybe it wasn't a knockout punch.
But the belief that it wasn't was confirmed when Walcott, after landing flat on his back, with his heels in the air, pulled himself into a sitting position at the count of two.
As the referee Frank Sikora began the count, Walcott just sat there, his knees in front of him, his right hand hanging on the middle rope, and his left hand resting on the canvas. He turned his head toward his corner and then stared back in front of him, and he didn't try to move or any thing, and that was the strangest thing that he just sat there like that.
Concerning it one sports writer (Red Smith) at the time wrote saying that Walcott looked "like a darkly brooding Budda, thinking slow and beautiful thoughts."
To another sport writer (Jesse Abramson), at the time wrote that he just sat there "like an old man, resting in the park on the grass and reveiwing his past life."
At the count of eight, a stunned Rocky Marciano said to himself, "This guy's not getting up." He did --- but the instant after the referee Sikora had already counted him out at ten, but it was too late, he was already counted out and the fight was over.
The fans in Chicago stadium who thought that Walcott would get up, were confused. Was the fight really over? When referee Sikora waved his arms and Marciano's handlers leaped in the ring, they knew it was over. And they booed.
Meanwhile, back in the ring, Walcott walked calmly and steadily to his corner. As the catcalls continued to rain over Chicago Stadium, he did an about face. He decided to pick up the theme of his handler Bocchicchio, who in the aftermath kept yelling at the offical timekeeper, "He didn't get ten." Walcott, too, started to show rage. He shot an amazed look a Sikora, and banged his gloves togather, and then flung them down in digust, and stomped his feet. He looked like he was ready to cry.
When Sikora walked over to him, Walcott said to him, "Nine. You counted nine."
Sikora shook his head. "No, Joe," he relied. "You got a full ten count, the fights over."
I had to change some of what I said in my last post for I didn't say it all completely right. Although it came to be seem that Walcott got a fair shake, the essential mystery remained.JCC said:
Although Walcott got a fair shake, the essential mystery remained.
Why didn't he get up?
What happened to Jersey Joe?
And these theories abounded:
1. Jersey Joe got a fair shake.
2. Jersey Joe misculated his rise.
3. Jersey Joe was knocked out.
4. Jersey Joe quit.